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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    But seeing what Yoshi-P has done in 3.0, zerging S/A rank hunts will most likely be the best way to complete your Relic in 3.1...
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    The Esoteric weapons can only be equipped by jobs; something that was unique to Relic weapons. I am led to believe that the Esoterics will be upgraded to Relics in 3.1. The antique versions can be considered as the unfinished X relic and the upgraded being more polished up like regular X relic.
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    Iskander Ionius
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    The Esoteric weapons can only be equipped by jobs; something that was unique to Relic weapons. I am led to believe that the Esoterics will be upgraded to Relics in 3.1. The antique versions can be considered as the unfinished X relic and the upgraded being more polished up like regular X relic.
    Either grind for your esoteric weapon, get the upgrade material to improve it, then turn it into your relic.
    OR
    Use your zeta as a catalyst.
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    Franz D'epinay
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    The Esoteric weapons can only be equipped by jobs; something that was unique to Relic weapons. I am led to believe that the Esoterics will be upgraded to Relics in 3.1. The antique versions can be considered as the unfinished X relic and the upgraded being more polished up like regular X relic.
    You know you might be onto something, like remember how PLDs could use the MNK ironworks weapon? Yeah that was awesome....

    wait a minute....the Ironworks weapons could only be equipped by the job it was specified for too, I wonder what it means??
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    Zohar Lahar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHGlobbd View Post
    You know you might be onto something, like remember how PLDs could use the MNK ironworks weapon? Yeah that was awesome....

    wait a minute....the Ironworks weapons could only be equipped by the job it was specified for too, I wonder what it means??
    Ironworks weapons could also be wielded by just the base class. Even Hive weapons can. The new Esoterics weapons are only for jobs.
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHGlobbd View Post
    You know you might be onto something, like remember how PLDs could use the MNK ironworks weapon? Yeah that was awesome....

    wait a minute....the Ironworks weapons could only be equipped by the job it was specified for too, I wonder what it means??
    Can look at the armor instead. All tanks could use the same Ironworks for example, these armor pieces are for job only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohar_Lahar View Post
    Ironworks weapons could also be wielded by just the base class. Even Hive weapons can. The new Esoterics weapons are only for jobs.
    The 52-60 skills are also job only, what's your point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    Can look at the armor instead. All tanks could use the same Ironworks for example, these armor pieces are for job only.
    That's because the Esoteric armor is Artifact 2, the 45/50 quest gear is job specific, so is the i90 Mythology gear.
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHGlobbd View Post
    You know you might be onto something, like remember how PLDs could use the MNK ironworks weapon? Yeah that was awesome....

    wait a minute....the Ironworks weapons could only be equipped by the job it was specified for too, I wonder what it means??
    You're not understanding what he said.

    The Poetic WEAPON could be equipped by Pugilist/Monk, or Gladiator/Paladin.

    The RELIC weapon could onyl be equipped by MONK, or PALADIN. You couldnt' take your job crystal off while wearing them.

    He wasn't suggesting (At least I don't think he was) that Monk could wear Paladin and Paladin could wear monk.

    Before being sassy, please think about the difference c:


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    I'll even challenge you to go one step further.
    Curtana (i80) - PLD RELIC
    Onikiri (i170) - GLA, PLD
    Antiquated Hauteclair (200) - PLD RELIC

    This is actually why I think these weapons ARE our relic weapons. Now, weather or not they plan to have THESE relic weapons undergo a change, or if perhaps there will be an alternative, is another story entirely.
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    Last edited by Eidolon; 08-05-2015 at 10:54 PM.

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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHGlobbd View Post
    The 52-60 skills are also job only, what's your point?
    Not sure if you're trolling or what. The below poster already made the point and you started coming back with wildly incorrect snide jabs as if you'd disproven something. The old relics were the only weapons that could be equipped by a job but not the base class. The new eso weapons are the same which suggests they may be the new relics.

    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    The Esoteric weapons can only be equipped by jobs; something that was unique to Relic weapons. I am led to believe that the Esoterics will be upgraded to Relics in 3.1. The antique versions can be considered as the unfinished X relic and the upgraded being more polished up like regular X relic.
    This does indeed seem to be likely. It's worth noting that the upgrade NPC has all of the esoterics weapons listed under 'Artifact Armor' as well which again suggests they're more significant than normal tomestone weapons.
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