I think raids are missing a "Normal" mode

[Kiara1]

I agree that this game lacks challenging content for "midcore" players.
Ex primals are too easy, AlexSavage is too hard (what's hard is to commit to a game like that, organise, find skilled players etc, only people with nothing but work and gaming can really do the newest raids)
We need something in between alexsavage and the ex primals.
What about harder dungeons, I don't understand what the point is of adding dungeons that you can faceroll the second they are released.
Give us EX dungeons please :c

[SendohJin]

Give us EX dungeons please :c

they can't figure out how to itemize it. Pharos was just a little hard and no one did it cause the drops weren't worth it.

if they make EX dungeons they have to put stuff in there that people will actually want to go.

[Sessurea]

It basically is. Going into A1S with i180 gear is pretty much equivalent to BCoB Turn 1 with i70 gear.

actually savage in 180 is like bcob in ilvl 60. (210-30 = 180) (90-30=60 ) Tis why we bully our poor healers atm for deeps xd. Though that is a little inaccurate too considering the enormous jump between 180 and 190 gear.

Going t1 at ilvl 70 was perfectly acceptable without heal dps required.

[Kiara1]

they can't figure out how to itemize it. Pharos was just a little hard and no one did it cause the drops weren't worth it.

if they make EX dungeons they have to put stuff in there that people will actually want to go.

Honestly I'd do it for rewards like minions, rare mats or just for the fun.
I mean it should almost be raid hard but with 4 people. Soo tight dps checks and hard mechanics.
Something for smaller groups of friends to work on

[Kogasan]

Alex normal isn't for the middleman. Alex normal is way to easy. If Alex normal is for the middleman they need to make it harder then it is. The way I see it Alex normal is Alex for beginners. With Alex savage being Alex for the HC and those who can get statics. I agree with you op. I think se needs to in the future make a raid that is in-between what they call normal and savage.

[repoe]

funny stuff- all ive seen this past year is boo hoo SCOB/FCOB we cant clear it cuz X reasons, why cant we have a story mode. SE released Alexander NM which is supposed to be a story version so everyone can be included and now i see i havent stepped into savage but boo hoo normal mode is too easy.

[DoctorPepper]

funny stuff- all ive seen this past year is boo hoo SCOB/FCOB we cant clear it cuz X reasons, why cant we have a story mode. SE released Alexander NM which is supposed to be a story version so everyone can be included and now i see i havent stepped into savage but boo hoo normal mode is too easy.

lol people will never be happy, incoming savage nerfs :P

[StrejdaTom]

How we can get midcore content when people cried even because of Steps of Faith? Pharos Sirius? Chrysalis? Etc.
Every time when there is a fight that expects more from you than just attacking the boss, people start waving with their social life, job and family.

funny stuff- all ive seen this past year is boo hoo SCOB/FCOB we cant clear it cuz X reasons, why cant we have a story mode. SE released Alexander NM which is supposed to be a story version so everyone can be included and now i see i havent stepped into savage but boo hoo normal mode is too easy.

This.

[Dante_V]

I think savage is harder than under-geared coil without echo honestly. I would say it's harder than savage coil also IMO. At the current ilvls anyway. Not necessarily mechanically hard but the healer and dps checks can be pretty crucial at times. 25k unmitigated damage tank busters and 6200+ team dps checks arent anything to scoff at. Most of the dps/tanks I've seen just from pugging practice on raid off days can't even put out the dps to even clear faust.

I absolutely loves every second of it though I'm not going to lie and I congratulate Square for putting out something that challenges players to this degree.

[Heskett]

I think savage is harder than under-geared coil without echo honestly. I would say it's harder than savage coil also IMO. At the current ilvls anyway. Not necessarily mechanically hard but the healer and dps checks can be pretty crucial at times. 25k unmitigated damage tank busters and 6200+ team dps checks arent anything to scoff at. Most of the dps/tanks I've seen just from pugging practice on raid off days can't even put out the dps to even clear faust.

I absolutely loves every second of it though I'm not going to lie and I congratulate Square for putting out something that challenges players to this degree.

Those 25k unmitigated tank busters and 6200+ team DPS checks very easily become more feasible when your average ilvl goes from 185 to 206. Savage's difficulty mechanic-wise is about par for Coil. Once people are geared from esoterics you'll see a lot more clears.