I think raids are missing a "Normal" mode

[pandabearcat]

From what I've heard (haven't stepped into Savage yet) Savage is meant as the hardest of dungeons, for the most elite.

That's fine, that's great! I'm sure a lot of people are certainly excited for the challenging content. I am too, once my FC gets our butts in gear and seriously buckle down.

But there isn't um, any content for the "mid tier" or "semihardcore" raiders.

Alex Normal I'm sure we can all agree is essentially LFR. Great for gearing up, puggable, but not really something you sit down with your FC and can feel challenged or satisfied running.

For a while Ravana EX was the pretty challenging, satisfying content for the nonelite, but now that's gotten old too (not to mention it is one boss...).

So I'm here twiddling my thumbs because I don't really have any content to tackle. Am I wrong in thinking A1S is almost not puggable? From the dps requirements to the new mechanics it seems it is designed as the "heroic/mythic" type of raid...without any sort of middle ground between LFR and heroic.

Perhaps another crystal tower is coming soon, but if that is another pugfest LFR then I still feel SE is missing a lot of the potential raider demographic.

[Duuude007]

3.1 raid (please be excited)

[Sessurea]

Why not tackle a1 savage and maybe even a2? For raid turns they are fairly easy, especially since we can do it 25 ilvls below max ilvl, it's only gonna get easier and easier. Particularly next Tuesday when everyone gets ilvl 200 weapons. Giving us the HM was quite helpful in terms of A1. Mechanically it doesn't get much more demanding, just harsh on dps atm.

Honestly, if u can do ravana and alex hm with no problem, I see no reason not to go ahead with savage A1. it does take a bit of time and commitment though, which is pretty hard to get in an mmo...

Truth is, there just isn't a lot of current pve content in ff. Savage is great but it's kinda static-times only. Pretty bored outside of that apart from daily expert, which is obviously boring at this point.

[Kaedan]

3.1 will have a 24 man raid. But it's likely not going to satisfy this impossible want you've developed in your head.

Despite what you think, the EX primals and Alex Normal ARE the "midcore" content. The issue is you've learned the mechanics and if you play with other people who know the mechanics (your FC) it's "easy". That's just how raids work. Even Savage will eventually be "easy" for groups once they get the mechanics down.

The Expert dungeons are the "casual" content, for lack of a better term. EX and Alex Normal are the "challenging" content... and they were (and still are for some) challenging for awhile. There are still groups that wipe and Vote Abandon on A1 and A4. But as I said, once you become comfortable with the mechanics, even challenging content will become "easy". Your best bet at this point is to challenge Savage 1 and 2.

[Heskett]

Alliance raids and EX primals are this game's mid-tier content. There's not much else they can do for mid-core players as of now besides adding more of the same.

[Naunet]

From what I've heard, "savage" is basically what Coil normal was in ARR.

[DoctorPepper]

As people gear up in Esoterics the savage Alexander floors will get significantly easier to pug. The hardest part of A1S for example is the dps check. Alexander Savage is no more difficult than normal coil was pre-3.0/echo from what I can tell.

This lack of stuff to do goes back and forth I find, in 2-3 months when 3.1 is released all the hardcore players who currently have stuff to do will be asking the same question as the OP because there will only be a new mid tier raid and no new savage until 3.2.

[Heskett]

From what I've heard, "savage" is basically what Coil normal was in ARR.

It basically is. Going into A1S with i180 gear is pretty much equivalent to BCoB Turn 1 with i70 gear.

[Naunet]

It basically is. Going into A1S with i180 gear is pretty much equivalent to BCoB Turn 1 with i70 gear.

Indeed. So people who did Coil shouldn't be afraid of Alexander just because SE decided to tag "Savage" onto the name for whatever reason. It's not the Savage Coil from 2.0.

[DukeBurden]

This game has content for the super elite world first progression teams that take a week off work to down OR... you can faceroll and sleepwalk through content. That's it.