I think raids are missing a "Normal" mode

[DukeBurden]

This game has content for the super elite world first progression teams that take a week off work to down OR... you can faceroll and sleepwalk through content. That's it.

[Kiara1]

I agree that this game lacks challenging content for "midcore" players.
Ex primals are too easy, AlexSavage is too hard (what's hard is to commit to a game like that, organise, find skilled players etc, only people with nothing but work and gaming can really do the newest raids)
We need something in between alexsavage and the ex primals.
What about harder dungeons, I don't understand what the point is of adding dungeons that you can faceroll the second they are released.
Give us EX dungeons please :c

[SendohJin]

Give us EX dungeons please :c

they can't figure out how to itemize it. Pharos was just a little hard and no one did it cause the drops weren't worth it.

if they make EX dungeons they have to put stuff in there that people will actually want to go.

[Kiara1]

they can't figure out how to itemize it. Pharos was just a little hard and no one did it cause the drops weren't worth it.

if they make EX dungeons they have to put stuff in there that people will actually want to go.

Honestly I'd do it for rewards like minions, rare mats or just for the fun.
I mean it should almost be raid hard but with 4 people. Soo tight dps checks and hard mechanics.
Something for smaller groups of friends to work on

[Kogasan]

Alex normal isn't for the middleman. Alex normal is way to easy. If Alex normal is for the middleman they need to make it harder then it is. The way I see it Alex normal is Alex for beginners. With Alex savage being Alex for the HC and those who can get statics. I agree with you op. I think se needs to in the future make a raid that is in-between what they call normal and savage.

[repoe]

funny stuff- all ive seen this past year is boo hoo SCOB/FCOB we cant clear it cuz X reasons, why cant we have a story mode. SE released Alexander NM which is supposed to be a story version so everyone can be included and now i see i havent stepped into savage but boo hoo normal mode is too easy.

[DoctorPepper]

funny stuff- all ive seen this past year is boo hoo SCOB/FCOB we cant clear it cuz X reasons, why cant we have a story mode. SE released Alexander NM which is supposed to be a story version so everyone can be included and now i see i havent stepped into savage but boo hoo normal mode is too easy.

lol people will never be happy, incoming savage nerfs :P

[StrejdaTom]

How we can get midcore content when people cried even because of Steps of Faith? Pharos Sirius? Chrysalis? Etc.
Every time when there is a fight that expects more from you than just attacking the boss, people start waving with their social life, job and family.

funny stuff- all ive seen this past year is boo hoo SCOB/FCOB we cant clear it cuz X reasons, why cant we have a story mode. SE released Alexander NM which is supposed to be a story version so everyone can be included and now i see i havent stepped into savage but boo hoo normal mode is too easy.

This.

[Zohar_Lahar]

funny stuff- all ive seen this past year is boo hoo SCOB/FCOB we cant clear it cuz X reasons, why cant we have a story mode. SE released Alexander NM which is supposed to be a story version so everyone can be included and now i see i havent stepped into savage but boo hoo normal mode is too easy.

I personally disagree with the sentiment and don't think it is "easy" at all.

[Ashkendor]

funny stuff- all ive seen this past year is boo hoo SCOB/FCOB we cant clear it cuz X reasons, why cant we have a story mode. SE released Alexander NM which is supposed to be a story version so everyone can be included and now i see i havent stepped into savage but boo hoo normal mode is too easy.

Exactly. To me, Alexander Normal is the very definition of "midcore" content. The DPS check is there, but it's not too steep. Even with the minimum gear level, as long as people are actually doing the mechanics right you'll get through it. If they aren't, however, you're in for a bad time. The mechanics are pretty simple and don't get thrown at you at a breakneck pace. It took maybe a couple of hours total to figure out the mechanics for all four turns. This means the more casual players can learn it and get through it without having to invest a massive amount of time because it's quite doable in Duty Finder. Players that do this content in a static on a weekly basis are going to find it exceedingly easy, especially now that we're starting to oveargear it.

The thing is, "midcore" covers a lot of ground. A lot of people seem to have a sort of a weird stigma against calling themselves either casual or hardcore, so they just end up just lumping themselves together in the middle. "Midcore" is going to contain everyone from people that play at their own pace but have all the time in the world to former hardcore raiders that now have real life commitments so they're in a time crunch. If SE implemented another tier of content, they'd just get more complaints. "They should do another tier exactly like this but with a lower DPS check." "They should do another tier exactly like this but with less mechanics." "They should do another tier exactly like this but purple." No matter what they do, people will always find a reason to complain.

I hope they never add echo to Alex Savage. Isn't that the whole point of have the Normal mode? What people seem to forget is that we aren't at the "minimum" entry gear requirements yet.

I'm pretty sure we will get Echo eventually. Alexander Savage is the equivalent of BCoB/SCoB/FCoB, not the equivalent of SCoB Savage. Alexander Normal is basically a Raid Lite™ for the masses to have a story mode.