Suggestion - Increase PLD Healing Support, not Dps

[VargasVermillion]

No. this would only be good if healers genuinely needed another healer which would be stupid, if you actually need to heal as a PLD in a party someone isn't doing something properly and 'support' heal doesn't matter either since it'll just contribute to overhealing more often than not.

Heal increasing buffs maybe but not actual heals. However we've already got enough of those so if any classes lack utility in the future you can blame the games design as now it just feels like you could only recycle utilities already in game.

[Reynhart]

You mean when ppl do lvl 50 content on lvl 60 toons unsynced lol?

No, I mean when Ramuh EX was doable with only Titan as a tank...or like you could do a lot of dungeons withtout a tank.

No. Let's keep separate roles. You want a class that can do everything so you'll never be content with balance. If you want a healer spot, play a healer.

Right let's keep separate roles, and let's throw PLD and DRK out of the window because WAR can do the same in most cases or even better.
Basically, today, it's, "You want to play something really useful ? Play something else than PLD"

And trust me... you already heal better than titan tanks.
Also, PLD contributes to dps too, so we would either need to take away all of your dps, or let healers off-tank...

You realize than any healer can DPS far more than any tank can heal, while still healing ? Why don't you suggest we nerf that since "If you want to DPS, play a DPS" ?

[Liselsia]

Personally I love idea of a healing paladin. But not as support but as core mechanic. What made FFXI PLD awesome was casting a huge heal and drawing massive enmity from it. I would love to see Clemency become a essential part of them maintaining enmity. Something draw all aoe enmity around them.

[Reynhart]

Enmity is not an issue, they already have all the tools they need, while DPSing.

In FFXI, healing was also an essential part of staying alive, because they didn't have as much mitigation as we have in XIV

[winsock]

Why don't you suggest we nerf that since "If you want to DPS, play a DPS" ?

As mentioned before, DPSing doesn't step on toes. A DPS role is about DPS. A dps should keep their dps as high as they can, regardless of the dps in the rest of the party. They will still be doing their rotations, poping their cooldowns, etc.

Healing is much different. If a PLD heals a tank to full, a WHM cant/shouldn't heal said tank. If clemency was an instant heal, it can prevent me from using my insta-heal cooldowns. That is stepping on toes.

Lol and if you're jelly of titan, start a threat about nerfing titan... And to be fair, most healers would prefer to heal. Healers end up dpsing because there isn't enough to heal and its better than idling.

[Duelle]

2. Make Clemency an instant cast. The 3 second cast time really discourages me from using it on partners since the healer will usually have a heal going out on them by the time my cast time is over and it feels like a waste of MP. We should be encouraged to use it on others since it has the 50% HP back bonus to it, but with the cast time, I only want to use it on myself since my HP is more important compared to those around me in those 3 seconds.

You're missing the point of Clemency. Clemency is not something the raid should count on in any way, and it's something one should ideally be using only while off-tanking, and that's if you see someone not getting healer attention or is out of range for some reason. It's an ability that falls into "nice to have" category. We're tanks, and as such we shouldn't even be thinking about doing the healer's job for them.

[Reynhart]

Healing is much different. If a PLD heals a tank to full, a WHM cant/shouldn't heal said tank. If clemency was an instant heal, it can prevent me from using my insta-heal cooldowns. That is stepping on toes.

You realize that a party is eight people, so if you don't have to heal the tank, you still have to heal the raid. And you'd still have to Regen the tank, or Esuna the tank, or include the tank in your group heal right after a raid-wide damage, or raise some fallen party member (Unless you bitch about SMN to step on your toes on that, too)
FFXIV is a game where each job can make a little more than it's role. Everybody can put buffs or debuffs, everybody can DPS at least a little, and DPS even have cooldowns to help them mitigate damage or recover HP.
By the way, I suppose you think WAR step on your toes with there instant Equilibrium, Second Wind or Inner Beast ?

And to be fair, most healers would prefer to heal. Healers end up dpsing because there isn't enough to heal and its better than idling.

You'd still have the opportunity to go solo heal thanks to a PLD off-tank, and be on heal duty the whole run.

[winsock]

You realize that a party is eight people, so if you don't have to heal the tank, you still have to heal the raid. And you'd still have to Regen the tank, or Esuna the tank, or include the tank in your group heal right after a raid-wide damage, or raise some fallen party member (Unless you bitch about SMN to step on your toes on that, too)

This made me lol then SMH... Do you even heal? I had to do a character search after reading this... lvl 34 cnj and acn... ast not unlocked... You dont even have access to insta-heals, have no idea how powerful they are, and likewise have no idea how large of a buff that would be to clemency or how much that would impose on the responsibilities of a healer.

To give you some insight. Benediction is the strongest single target heal in the game, but in context it's usually referred to as a WHM 'insta-heal' i.e. the strongest single target heal in the game is most commonly referred to in the context of its cast time.

[winsock]

FFXIV is a game where each job can make a little more than it's role. Everybody can put buffs or debuffs, everybody can DPS at least a little, and DPS even have cooldowns to help them mitigate damage or recover HP.

A 'little' more than its role? You keep mentioning SMN (which you dont play). Is your argument: SMN can dps, heal, and tank; therefore, PLD should to? You can already heal and tank better than SMN, why buff PLD more?

By the way, I suppose you think WAR step on your toes with there instant Equilibrium, Second Wind or Inner Beast ?

I really dont know what to say here other than go play a healer. A targeted, no cd, insta-heal is insanely superior to a self heal on a cd.

You'd still have the opportunity to go solo heal thanks to a PLD off-tank, and be on heal duty the whole run.

Or healers could get some off-tanking abilities, to drop a tank.
Better yet, we could keep the role in roleplaying game.

[Reynhart]

This made me lol then SMH... Do you even heal? I had to do a character search after reading this... lvl 34 cnj and acn... ast not unlocked... You dont even have access to insta-heals, have no idea how powerful they are, and likewise have no idea how large of a buff that would be to clemency or how much that would impose on the responsibilities of a healer.

Too bad you don't see my other character

I really don't understand why you still insist to oppose tank and healers...