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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    Time limits should exist but be 6 months. If you don't pay for 6 months then you lose your house. It would be the best system.
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    Such a timer could also easily affect players who take a long break from the game.
    Especially since theres no variety in content, the game pretty much forces you to take 2-3 month long breaks :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amiaze View Post
    This is why I think it should be subscription-based rather than log-in based. It would stink to pay for a game that you cannot play at the time, but at least it would offer some solution to a lack of housing while also offering a way for players with houses to keep theirs. I'm curious to see how Ishgardian housing wards sell if/when we get them.
    Tbh the reason we can't have this, is because of this--v

    Quote Originally Posted by Obysuca View Post
    Especially since theres no variety in content, the game pretty much forces you to take 2-3 month long breaks :/
    Having to pay just to keep the house is kinda weird and like paying real life rent tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    Time limits should exist but be 6 months. If you don't pay for 6 months then you lose your house. It would be the best system.
    Everyone acts like a super long time is the justifiable cure-all, when in reality it is not going to solve the problem in the long run when mostly active players have houses. You may see ~1-2 go up for sale every 6 months or so, but in the end that is just another ~1-2 people that can get a house. Removing housing is not a good solution if you really think about it. 6 months is a long time, that is hopefully half the way to an expansion. If they cannot upgrade their servers to facilitate their growing playerbase and the amount of housing remains the same, it will in fact get HARDER to get a house than simply asking for more housing wards, hopefully making them prioritize increasing housing servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arixtotle View Post
    Time limits should exist but be 6 months. If you don't play for 6 months then you lose your house. It would be the best system.
    Fixed that for you. Not that I don't disagree, if you can't be assed to log in every so often you shouldn't keep your plot of land. I do think 6 months is a bit generous, though. 35 days is best to me. That's a whole month plus part of a week in another, longer if it's a short month. If you can't log in even once in all that time then you really have no commitment to this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Fixed that for you. Not that I don't disagree, if you can't be assed to log in every so often you shouldn't keep your plot of land. I do think 6 months is a bit generous, though. 35 days is best to me. That's a whole month plus part of a week in another, longer if it's a short month. If you can't log in even once in all that time then you really have no commitment to this game.
    I think saving up for a house for 3 months of time suggests quite a bit of commitment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    I think saving up for a house for 3 months of time suggests quite a bit of commitment.
    Houses are a commitment, but like real life you shouldn't be allowed to keep one if you can't afford the mortgage payments. Logging in once a month doesn't sound like all that tough a 'payment', either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Houses are a commitment, but like real life you shouldn't be allowed to keep one if you can't afford the mortgage payments. Logging in once a month doesn't sound like all that tough a 'payment', either.
    You've clearly never been deployed or had to travel overseas for work, I take it. There are several military members in my FC who are inactive for months at a time, despite loving the game and playing as often as they can when they're on leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Houses are a commitment, but like real life you shouldn't be allowed to keep one if you can't afford the mortgage payments. Logging in once a month doesn't sound like all that tough a 'payment', either.
    So once a month would be ok? What if someone finally saved enough money to go on a long holiday trip for 3 weeks and after that have some problems to log into the game? Should that person loose their house just because SE can´t somehow implement a system where everyone can have one? Or maybe someone got really ill and could not play the game at all. Should they be punished too that something real life happened? Or maybe someone lost a dear person and just needs some time for themselves or there is work that keep the person away. Is it okay to punish them too? Sorry if I sound a little aggressive but it just surprises me that instead of wanting SE to come up with a better system some people want the players to be punished.

    We already payed our mortgage for the in game house. That big sum was not something that anyone can easily have earned especially if your are on a bad server. So yes sorry to say we paid our complete mortgage. Even in real life you don´t always have to pay it for the rest of your life. If someone is lucky enough to earn a lot of money they can own that house really fast and pay all of their mortgages back. After that the house is ours. The real life example would be more like: Oh sorry you bought your holiday house in “...” and even payed all the mortgages for it back..but you are only there once a year. Normally that is in your right but we have families here that would like to have theirs too and they would be there twice a year..so if you don´t want to loose the house that is yours you have to visit it at least twice a year too.. Yes this is in a way a horrible example but nobody in the real world would truly loose their house if they paid everything for it just because someone else wants it too and use it much more..

    Maybe if housing is such a commitment than we should have such commitments for other parts of the game too? Maybe you can only try the new raids in the first month of the release and afterwards you can´t join it. Maybe you will have to wait till another group has gone through it and than you can join it (if not some other group was faster). Wait you don´t like it? Than your just not committed enough for it. I mean its the same in real life too right?

    You know this is a game. A game where we already pay money to play it. Real life can be hard enough and it would be horrible if everything that we have to do in real life is going to be part of the game..

    And I agree with Titor. Even if we loose our house after maybe a half year of not logging in than this would make barely any change at all..even now only a small percentage of people own a house and even not every FC has one..and than we still have the problem of people with too much gil buying those houses with their alt character or just opening a second FC..The only thing that SE will achieve with a timer is making the people that loose them angry, give some bigger FC even more a chance to earn more money and maybe making a handful of other people happy (or even not). Really the only solution to this would be wards for FC only and instanced housing for private people. Than nobody needs to fear to loose their house and everyone can enjoy one.
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    Vine Rainyday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    Houses are a commitment, but like real life you shouldn't be allowed to keep one if you can't afford the mortgage payments. Logging in once a month doesn't sound like all that tough a 'payment', either.
    Pretty sure you don't have to pay a mortgage back if you, you know didn't take one out and bought said house outright.
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    I kind of wish they did something similar to what ArcheAge did with their farms. You pay a (weekly?) tax after you purchase it, and if you miss x-amount of payments, then that plot is up for grabs.

    I really hate comparing other games with FFXIV, but this was the best example I could come up with.
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