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    Waited way too long for first blood letter, should've been the first move you did after straight shot because you easily would've had another one by the time you actually used it and you delayed some of your bloodletters for less damaging/cooldown oGCD moves. You were good with your cooldowns from what I saw pairing up raging strikes/internal release and barrage/hawk eye/blood for blood. You're opener is a mess, where did you learn it from? I'd suggest using either of these two openers. 1 2 as both have been tested as reliable, the first has a good ramp up whereas the second has amazing burst, but delays your cooldowns a little be more if you use barrage on your second EA. You also should pop your flaming arrow after you pop all of your cooldowns so it gets the full benefit of the damage and crit ups.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geardagas View Post
    How can you even begin to compare it without misery though? It goes without saying that it's a huge part of our dps.

    I personally have no problem with bards dps (or new playstyle, for that matter). We are more than competitive as far as I'm concerned, and if you factor in the dps increase that requiem adds to the raid, we're on par with everyone else.
    Because it fucks with the parse on if a dummy is to get within 20% of their HP to use it before filling up again. It skews it to be unreliable because that would never happen in an actual fight.
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    tomtensfarfar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medieval View Post
    Waited way too long for first blood letter, should've been the first move you did after straight shot because you easily would've had another one by the time you actually used it and you delayed some of your bloodletters for less damaging/cooldown oGCD moves. You were good with your cooldowns from what I saw pairing up raging strikes/internal release and barrage/hawk eye/blood for blood. You're opener is a mess, where did you learn it from? I'd suggest using either of these two openers.1 2 as both have been tested as reliable, the first has a good ramp up whereas the second has amazing burst, but delays your cooldowns a little be more if you use barrage on your second EA. You also should pop your flaming arrow after you pop all of your cooldowns so it gets the full benefit of the damage and crit ups.



    Because it fucks with the parse on if a dummy is to get within 20% of their HP to use it before filling up again. It skews it to be unreliable because that would never happen in an actual fight.
    Thanks for the in depth analysis. Yeah, I noticed I used Blunt Arrow instead of Bloodletter when I double weaved, I blame it on me being tired cause I never prioritise that one otherwise.

    I didn't think double weaving was still worth it with Minuet, but I parsed like an extra 50dps over 2 mins using the first rotation you linked, so thanks. I don't understand why you wanna use bloodletter right before using Straight Shot though, sure it'll be up again before the buffs wear off but it just feels strange. I did use flaming arrow after all the buffs so I'll ignore that one :P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomtensfarfar View Post
    I didn't think double weaving was still worth it with Minuet, but I parsed like an extra 50dps over 2 mins using the first rotation you linked, so thanks. I don't understand why you wanna use bloodletter right before using Straight Shot though, sure it'll be up again before the buffs wear off but it just feels strange. I did use flaming arrow after all the buffs so I'll ignore that one :P.
    You want to open with blood letter so it's up sooner and it doesn't hurt your oGCD weaving. If you are follow the 1st opener then you should have a decent amount of buffs up and blood letter should be up again even if you got 0 procs. It's a good opener, just keep working with it and most of your buffs should realign.

    As for everyone else..While I also have issues with Bard let's try and focus.. OP is asking about Bard's rotation.....
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    Haku Jay
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    With Ilvl 190 is parse 950 Dps.
    With Dragoon debuff on the dummy iam arround 1050 dps.

    3 min without miserys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuohsama View Post
    With Ilvl 190 is parse 950 Dps.
    With Dragoon debuff on the dummy iam arround 1050 dps.

    3 min without miserys.
    That's... Actually quite low for a dummy. You should be doing 1050+ in 190 and 1150 with a dragoon. my ilvl was 184 and my highest is 1040 without a pet.
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    Last edited by Medieval; 08-01-2015 at 02:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medieval View Post
    That's... Actually quite low for a dummy. You should be doing 1050+ in 190 and 1150 with a dragoon. my ilvl was 184 and my highest is 1040 without a pet.
    that sounds about right. i was sitting at 995 for i183, and i was kinda screwing up because i kept forgetting to use blunt arrow and repelling shot.
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    Yea it takes some practice to remember to slowly move back up to the dummy with WM on.
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