NIN -- how does everyone else feel we're doing?

[Darkthrone]

NiN is fantastic. But because of mudra lag (60ms) it frustrates me and costs dps. So, I'm switching mains.

[Atreides]

mudra lag (60ms)

Wow thats cute meanwhile some EU ninjas think they've got a pretty decent ping with 115ms. o_o

[Subucnimorning]

NiN is fantastic. But because of mudra lag (60ms) it frustrates me and costs dps. So, I'm switching mains.

You should be fine at 60ms, I am generally around 70 and rarely have an issue.

You can also make Armor Crush combo off of Shadow Fang and not Gust Slash.

Wow, that would be an awesome change.

[ErzaScarlet77]

whoa i havent played mnk since 2.0 but i remember their aoe options were absolute trash (rockbreaker+pb or howling fist)

is elixir field like super good and spammable or something?

[DGladius]

Elixir field is 220 potency ogcd on a 30 second cooldown.

[Pluvia]

Elixir field is 220 potency ogcd on a 30 second cooldown.

This and the fact they can get tp back from Purification

[Shurrikhan]

Wow, that would be an awesome change.

Check this against the actual rotation times and see if you still think it's awesome (esp. in a group w/o a WAR). Swapping out a single ability does not mess with our DE window. Adding onto a previously 2-step combo a move that you will use for 2 out of 3 Shadowfangs will mess with that window almost every rotation.

whoa i havent played mnk since 2.0 but i remember their aoe options were absolute trash (rockbreaker+pb or howling fist)

is elixir field like super good and spammable or something?

Elixir Field is the pretty much the best oGCD AoE in the game if you look at modified potency (up to 220*1.41, 310, per 30 seconds), and up their with a Gierskogul if you look at modified potency per minute (230, 3 times per minute).

NIN's current position: basically fine, save for being a TP hog.

What I'd like to see: Aeolian Edge and Armor Crush costs reduced to 50 TP, another shot taken at mudra lag, and, if successful, Fuma Shuriken changed to slashing damage to maintain relevance against longer term focus targets.

[Sidra]

Ninja's personal DPS is the lowest single target dps of the mele (not much, by like ~40 dps in perfect scenario), and it has the lowest AOE potential. But between Trick Attack and Goad, it's a great party member and has been common in the current set of world firsts. I'd say it's doing very well.

[Destinova]

An easy fix is to let our poison affect magic skills again. This would increase our st and aoe damage output using Ration and Katon.

[HolyXtremeZ]

I am hoping they could prolong the duration of Dancing Edge... Its a pain when you have a PLD and a DRK as your tanks... Maybe make AE potency w/o the positional bonus a bit higher.. Its a pain that if you miss, its a 80 potency difference.. even MNKs have 40 potency difference only.. Are we gonna spam Dancing Edge all day long if we cant get into the correct position?