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  1. #61
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    Dree-Elle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuria View Post
    At best you'd be able to run around at level 1 in a Thavnarian Bustier...
    I'd like to see the level 1 who can *afford* a Thavnairian Bustier.

    ...

    WITHOUT RMT.
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  2. #62
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    Tyrius Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Why does it matter? I don't understand. You still have to put work into getting the items in the first place. This actually helps crafters make more money on higher level gear.

    This actually "helps" the game in many ways.
    by help you mean let crafters over charge for these iteams so lowbies will buy from gil spammers to buy overpriced glam gear jajajaj
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  3. #63
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    players who will get benefit from this change are those true new players. they don't even have money to buy just one glamour prism, let alone Thavnarian pieces.

    this thread is asking for whose sake anyway?
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  4. #64
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrius View Post
    by help you mean let crafters over charge for these iteams so lowbies will buy from gil spammers to buy overpriced glam gear jajajaj
    Yep, I agree 1000% that this is part of the reason why people turn to RMT. This is why undercuts exist and why prices are over-the-top with other things like housing and stuff are being affected by this. There is literally no reason to be carrying extreme amounts of gil.
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    Last edited by FallenArisen0990; 08-01-2015 at 11:03 PM.

  5. #65
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    Catwho's Avatar
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    Katarh Mest
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    Lamia
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    I agree with lowering the requirements a few levels, maybe level 30 or 40. But a very low level is supposed to look like a mismatched dork until they hit 12-15 and can unlock dyes. Once they're dyed and color coordinated, the outfits in this game are quite decent, and the really cool midlevel sets (15 dungeon gear, 32 Brayflox's gear, etc) will last you a very long time.
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  6. #66
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    Mide Uyagir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    and low level players shouldn't be allowed to glamour. want to look good? at least put some effort for it and get to level 50.
    Why does FFXIV encourage this mindset? It's freaking costumes, not endgame gear. Any other reasonable MMO with a costume system lets you customize your character well before level cap.

    While we're discussing glamour changes... they really need to remove the job/class/dom/dow/dol/doh restrictions. If I earn a piece of gear, I should be able to use it as glamour on any class I want. 8|

    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    I agree with lowering the requirements a few levels, maybe level 30 or 40. But a very low level is supposed to look like a mismatched dork until they hit 12-15 and can unlock dyes. Once they're dyed and color coordinated, the outfits in this game are quite decent, and the really cool midlevel sets (15 dungeon gear, 32 Brayflox's gear, etc) will last you a very long time.
    "Supposed to" - wat. This is not 2004. Please awaken in the present where we have advanced beyond such archaic design thoughts.
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  7. #67
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    Katarh Mest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    "Supposed to" - wat. This is not 2004. Please awaken in the present where we have advanced beyond such archaic design thoughts.
    It takes you FOUR HOURS to get to level 15. I timed it on an alt when HW came out.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    I reckon SE wants the players to level and not focus on grinding gil to pay stuff for glamours. If we had the same system like other games where catalysts are very cheap or there is none and a player only needs to drag the glamour armour to a tab, then, I would agree with you and make it a level 1 quest. Right now this is sadly not the case, so I think keeping it at level 50, is the best choice.
    1. I don't need to be protected from you or SE. I will spend my gil however I wish. They need to stop trying to control every single aspect of how I play the game. If I want to spend some of my gil on a lowbie to make them look cool, then I should be able to do that.
    2. This is actually emblematic of how backwards SE's costume system is. If only it was styled after Rift or WildStar. I can look however I want at any level in those games, so long as I've unlocked the item appearance...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catwho View Post
    It takes you FOUR HOURS to get to level 15. I timed it on an alt when HW came out.
    We're talking about glamours, not dye.

    Quote Originally Posted by Natsuno View Post
    Welp, it will be an easier way to spot a gil buyer, if nothing else.
    Alts exist, too, y'know. It's not just benefiting to brand new players.
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    Last edited by Naunet; 08-02-2015 at 12:17 AM.

  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    "Supposed to" - wat. This is not 2004. Please awaken in the present where we have advanced beyond such archaic design thoughts.
    So we don't have level progressions and armour progressions in the present day of gaming?

    Honestly speaking, I'd like to see the level 1 that can afford a glamour lol.
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    Last edited by SethCypher; 08-02-2015 at 01:00 AM.

  10. #70
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    Orspeth Bleakwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    ..snip..
    Alts exist, too, y'know. It's not just benefiting to brand new players.
    This - my money, my crafter to make the prisms and my alts that I want to look nice. Naunet mentions the outfit systems in Rift and Wildstar, I will also refer to that of Lotro, which is excellent. Sometimes heavy plate shoulders can really make the outfit over a casters robe, for example, and I could use any item from my shared wardrobe on any character at any level. The outfit system there was disabled for their very small PVP zone so that set of folks had no reason to complain of it.
    There is zero reason to restrict this so heavily here, it would harm no one.
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    Last edited by Orspeth; 08-02-2015 at 12:50 AM.

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