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  1. #1
    Player
    Gaston's Avatar
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    Leopard's Maelstrom
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    Malboro
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    Lancer Lv 56
    Actually, I don't care how healer rolls in dungeon.

    I only care about is "don't let tank die and keep eyes on your party for" :3
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    ArcheDragon's Avatar
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    Archen Galmoren
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 59
    It looks like anybody who would get anything out of this thread has already and anybody left is too stubborn to see the points being made. It should be noted that any healer totally averse to dpsing will not be capable of doing progression content without the dps and tank being over geared (I don't think it is even progression content at that point) because SE has made it very clear that dps checks will require healers to dps. SE also released the AST which is a support healer and shows that SE understands what dps mitigation is. If you want to sit in dungeons and put forth no serous effort, then do it. But please stop telling everybody else, who've done their homework, that they are wrong.

    For low level dungeons dps is a better form of mitigation than protect. You can do both but for decent healers it won't make a single difference and will make the run longer by having to wait for cooldowns. If you are a tank who is uncomfortable with this then please get more comfortable with it. If something goes wrong then take a minute to remember all of those many times that you messed up and be respectful.


    *Sorry for the random letters. I replied on my phone and then couldn't edit it. I had to send a word file to my computer and copy and paste it. Can we please get these stupid forum rules fixed?
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    Last edited by ArcheDragon; 08-02-2015 at 08:35 AM.

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    Yorumi's Avatar
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    Yorumi Eienyuki
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by ArcheDragon View Post
    because SE has made it very clear that dps checks will require healers to dps. SE also released the AST which is a support healer and shows that SE understands what dps mitigation is. If you want to sit in dungeons and put forth no serous effort, then do it. But please stop telling everybody else, who've done their homework, that they are wrong.
    Um two things here. So SE has actually said they tune all fights assume 0 healer dps. There is no accuracy on high level healer gear which means you miss quite frequently. I don't even think it's possible to hit the accuracy checks on current endgame content. You miss a good bit when you get into ex primals and alexander.

    Secondly can we stop with the asinine hyperbole. To get protect in low level a healer literally gives up one weak dot, oh the horror. This is why people think the healers are bad, they are throwing an absolute temper tantrum over no having aero on their bar, or lolbliz 2. Gotta get my uber 50 potency out there or this run would take forever.
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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 60
    I do what Skapoc does. Move protect into first slot cast it and then replace it with my other important skills. Get Gud guys...come on. Think...LOL
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

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    Mikedizzy's Avatar
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    Rain Arrows
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 60
    The whole point here is you can have both and not have to sacrifice anything to do it. The tank should not have bailed on them but healers need to get their crap together and think of how to best support the party and not just half ass content whether it is just running dungeons or not. you should always be trying your best when playing with other people so that everyone's experience can be the best it can be.
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    Server: BEHEMOTH
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    Playing since Beta phase 3

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    ArcheDragon's Avatar
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    Archen Galmoren
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 59
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    The whole point here is you can have both and not have to sacrifice anything to do it. The tank should not have bailed on them but healers need to get their crap together and think of how to best support the party and not just half ass content whether it is just running dungeons or not. you should always be trying your best when playing with other people so that everyone's experience can be the best it can be.
    Right, but waiting a minute so that you can perpetuate a false misconception will not fly by me.
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    You think dealing damage is more effective than healing? Then sack off the healer, bring a third DPS into the dungeon. See where that gets you.
    This just in guys: not using Protect obviously means you expend zero effort at healing

    Sorry, but when a SCH fairy can heal an entire dungeon by itself, that is usually a sign it's not very healing-intensive.
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Not really important if you're SCH. I always put Cleric Stance on first bar of cross skill
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