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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcheDragon View Post
    What I mean is, is it worth ditching a DF group for Brayflox (normal) if the healer doesn't run it? I'm a level 58 scholar and when I told the tank that I didn't have protect cross classed low enough they just left.

    I was using Cleric Stance, Swift Cast, and Blizzard II. Those are followed by Protect and Stoneskin but aren't allowed in Brayflox. The way that I see it is that as a SCH I don't have to do much healing at that level and so I'm benefited more by having more dps. It should also be noted that Blizzard II has a potency of 50 while Ruin I has a potency of 80. This means that in fights where there is more than a single enemy, Blizzard II is more effective. And mana isn't an issue.

    I'd like to reiterate one thing. This wasn't progression content. This was Brayflox Longstop Normal. I am well aware that a 30 minute 5% mitigation is very important in difficult content, though you wouldn't believe it based on some of the hate that I got for it.

    What are your thoughts? Actually important/necessary? or Too ingrained to debate?
    Brayflox is a fairly major milestone dungeon with damage ramping up and healing requirements becoming steeper (though no where near Stone Vigil levels yet). I would've made the effort to put Protect on just to help out and then slotted Blizzard II back into the 3rd slot if you really wanted to DPS harder.

    With that being said, I don't think that's a reason for the tank to instantly drop unless you were insistent on not requiring it (but based on what you said, that's not the case)
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    Cleric Stance in first slot, always. Speeds up those low-level dungeons. It's painful to use Ruin or Stone w/o that thing. If someone wants to get nutty about protect, switch it to slot 1, cast it, then put Cleric Stance back in 1. I just do that out of habit anyway.

    Yes, there is that whole cooldown, but a tank can still pull and should not go down for that cycle lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Cleric Stance in first slot, always. Speeds up those low-level dungeons. It's painful to use Ruin or Stone w/o that thing. If someone wants to get nutty about protect, switch it to slot 1, cast it, then put Cleric Stance back in 1. I just do that out of habit anyway.

    Yes, there is that whole cooldown, but a tank can still pull and should not go down for that cycle lol.
    It's a lot easier to just go in with Protect slotted, buff them up, and then remove it as they run to the first pull. We're healers first, so we should always focus on supporting in whatever way we can primarily. The dps comes second to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    It's a lot easier to just go in with Protect slotted, buff them up, and then remove it as they run to the first pull. We're healers first, so we should always focus on supporting in whatever way we can primarily. The dps comes second to that.
    I let Eos take care of that issue in low level. The faster a mob dies, the less to heal as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    I let Eos take care of that issue in low level. The faster a mob dies, the less to heal as well.
    Agreed. People often forget that proper "support" doesn't mean mindlessly insisting on performing healing and buffing actions when supporting in other ways makes better sense and is more effective. There's a time and a place for both methods of supporting your party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Agreed. People often forget that proper "support" doesn't mean mindlessly insisting on performing healing and buffing actions when supporting in other ways makes better sense and is more effective. There's a time and a place for both methods of supporting your party.
    Using protect is one skill you cast and are done for the rest of the dungeon. It's just laziness not to cast that at the start. It's not like it's something that requires constant vigilance.
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