Page 1 of 11 1 2 3 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 107

Thread: Done with AST

  1. #1
    Player
    Nasrin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    17
    Character
    Kara Hathorn
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60

    Done with AST

    Yes yes another one of these "oh no AST sux lol plz buff us" threads but I would just like SE to see that there's yet another AST unhappy with their job.

    Now don't get me wrong I like the flare of the class, and I can even deal with the RNG cards. But when a WHM can follow a tank into a dungeon where the tank pulls 2+ groups of mobs and be fine, and I will go dry on MP before the mobs come to half and most of the time the tank doesn't even survive that long because I simply do not have the throughput, is rubbish.

    So I'll be going back to my WHM with a full healing kit until you fix this poor job you so deem a "healer". I understand we have utility in card's that can do all kind's of cool things. And for other classes, such as BRDs and MCHs that deal a bit less damage because of their utility that's cool. But it simply does not work for a healing class. Just wanted to express my dissatisfaction with a class I was looking forward to playing and not beta testing. Thanks.
    (28)

  2. #2
    Player
    Tyla_Esmeraude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    344
    Character
    Tyla Esmeraude
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    =( I feel you. Still not giving up on mine but the past 2 fractal runs I've done on AST have been a nightmare mainly because of things not dying fast, dps not evading, low ilvl tank. I've saved the runs but it feels like a struggle, on WHM i could add much more to make the runs faster and less tedious for me. It's making me want to play the job less.... but I am still hanging in there, waiting for the fixes. I have faith in Yoshi and team.
    (3)

  3. #3
    Player
    Rewind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    174
    Character
    Lady Rewind
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 61
    Edit: nvm, for some reason I swear your AST showed level 52 >.<
    (0)
    Last edited by Rewind; 07-25-2015 at 04:04 PM.

  4. #4
    Player
    Akyio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    130
    Character
    Akyio Tayin
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    I had yesterday this in neverreap where tank pulled too much and died, i was unable to heal that fast and he died. He acknowledged that AST had some healing issues and will not pull that much. I was pretty sure that if i was SCH he wouldn't have died.

    I'm still playing and gearing up, but as Alexander starts i might start to get people complaining. So far not anyone complains, because i know the content that i'm doing and how to handle it even though it's to play as AST is like playing with other 2 healers on "very hard" mode. But as I get closer to full end game content, i'm getting discouraged and looking into other jobs or crafting jobs to pass my time until it's fixed.

    what bothers me mostly is that almost every ability that AST has is a weaker copy of WHM/SCH ability - from the dps abilities to heals. And every unique ability that AST has is gimmics that doesn't bring anything meaningful to the party.
    (0)
    Last edited by Akyio; 07-25-2015 at 04:06 PM.

  5. #5
    Player
    Akyio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    130
    Character
    Akyio Tayin
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rewind View Post
    But you aren't even at the level 60 cap?

    How can you make a final decision without even experiencing the play at end game?
    Because at the end game it gets even worse, AST is pratically unable to do alex savage.
    (2)

  6. #6
    Player
    Rewind's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    174
    Character
    Lady Rewind
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    Because at the end game it gets even worse, AST is pratically unable to do alex savage.
    I disagree - its not unable to do anything. It can heal just fine, including savage A1 atleast but the other healers simply have more utility and make it cleaner. It's okay to dislike the playstyle but there is no need for dramatics.
    (5)

  7. #7
    Player
    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gresham, OR
    Posts
    744
    Character
    Renabi Rena
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    If you're having mana problems, you could Time Dilate your Luminiferous Aether in order to get 30 sec of refresh (not sure if it's possible, I'm personally only lv31 in the class), and you should make sure you're in Nocturnal Sect when you're only needing to heal the tank. Diurnal Sect is really only good if you're pre-50 or if there's a consistent hp drain on the entire group.
    (0)

  8. #8
    Player
    Nasrin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    17
    Character
    Kara Hathorn
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Time Dilate is not castable on yourself unfortunately And I don't want to talk about how terrible Nocturnal Sect is and it's amazing 1k absorb shield :3
    (4)

  9. #9
    Player
    Akyio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    130
    Character
    Akyio Tayin
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    If you're having mana problems, you could Time Dilate your Luminiferous Aether in order to get 30 sec of refresh (not sure if it's possible, I'm personally only lv31 in the class), and you should make sure you're in Nocturnal Sect when you're only needing to heal the tank. Diurnal Sect is really only good if you're pre-50 or if there's a consistent hp drain on the entire group.
    You can't time dilate yourself, you can only "celestial opposition" yourself to get 5 seconds of extra refresh( i think it gives extra 2 ticks possibly )
    also actually nocturnal is not good :/ it's nice, but i never used it ever, unless im in a level 50 trial with a WHM, then i use it for fun otherwise there's a lot of overheal.
    later when u get time dilation it's much better to just aspect benefic a tank + buff + time dilate in diurnal, and switch to cleric stance to dps a bit.
    (4)

  10. #10
    Player
    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gresham, OR
    Posts
    744
    Character
    Renabi Rena
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nasrin View Post
    Time Dilate is not castable on yourself unfortunately And I don't want to talk about how terrible Nocturnal Sect is and it's amazing 1k absorb shield :3
    That unfortunately makes Time Dilate next to useless. I should add though that Nocturnal sect also increases your healing magic potency by 5% and the absorb shield scales with how much you heal for, which means you're practically doubling the amount that you're healing that target for. There's also Synastry which is great when you need to aoe heal, and you should pretty much be using Lightspeed whenever you need to spam for the lowered MP costs.

    Aspected Nocturnal Benefic potency: 262.5 (barrier)
    Aspected Nocturnal Helios potency: 147 (aoe barrier)
    Nocturnal Benefic potency: 399
    Nocturnal Benefic II potency: 651
    Nocturnal Helios potency: 304.5 (aoe)
    Nocturnal Essential Dignity potency: 420-1050

    EDIT: Now that I look at it, they really need to increase the Nocturnal Aspected Helios potency. It's straight up better to use the regular Helios otherwise, especially since you save MP doing so.
    (0)
    Last edited by The_Last_Dragoon; 07-25-2015 at 04:37 PM.

Page 1 of 11 1 2 3 ... LastLast