Following Nasrin: I'm done with AST too

[EchuKayu]

I mean, I could talk a while about the problems, but I couldn't really explain how to fix them. I can pick out plenty of things and tell you why they're an issue. For example let's take a look at Nocturnal Aspected Benefic. You can see what they were trying to do with the spell, but the fact is it falls short of what it needs to be. You think it being instant and doing more healing on application justifies it? It's the only ST spell that gives a shield, which means it should be comparable to adloquium. The problem is: 1) It doesn't crit shield. 2) It's incredibly weak. 3) Because it's incredibly weak, you recast it a lot, which 4) DRAINS your mana. But, hey, it costs less mana and it's instant. OooOo. I'm sorry, but outside of PvP, what that gives you is...just worthless. Pretty interesting in noct stance, though, you have bene/bene 2 that do nothing to compliment the sect and then a worthess Aspected Benefic!

I don't want to sit here and compare it in depth to SCH/WHM, but guess what? It's a total ripoff, but a downgraded ripoff, of the other two healers. If it's supposed to "fill either role" but does so in a subpar way, and the cards are so RNG and simply don't make up for it, it's not wonder people prefer to bring a SCH/WHM...it literally makes 100% more sense.

[SovereignAegis]

I mean, I could talk a while about the problems, but I couldn't really explain how to fix them. I can pick out plenty of things and tell you why they're an issue. For example let's take a look at Nocturnal Aspected Benefic. You can see what they were trying to do with the spell, but the fact is it falls short of what it needs to be. You think it being instant and doing more healing on application justifies it? It's the only ST spell that gives a shield, which means it should be comparable to adloquium. The problem is: 1) It doesn't crit shield. 2) It's incredibly weak. 3) Because it's incredibly weak, you recast it a lot, which 4) DRAINS your mana. But, hey, it costs less mana and it's instant. OooOo. I'm sorry, but outside of PvP, what that gives you is...just worthless. Pretty interesting in noct stance, though, you have bene/bene 2 that do nothing to compliment the sect and then a worthess Aspected Benefic!

I don't want to sit here and compare it in depth to SCH/WHM, but guess what? It's a total ripoff, but a downgraded ripoff, of the other two healers. If it's supposed to "fill either role" but does so in a subpar way, and the cards are so RNG and simply don't make up for it, it's not wonder people prefer to bring a SCH/WHM...it literally makes 100% more sense.

Amen, I support this post fully.

But cards are RNG ANDDDDDDDD they are extremely weak at the same time. Only time they are noticeable is if you get an extended or enhanced arrow/balance. But even then that doesn't even compete with a Scholar's selene which while a little weaker (by a little more than half) is a guaranteed effect every minute. An AST's buffs just are a joke.


And then we get into WHM where they just heal so much more that they can afford to spam stone and I just... ugh.

[Muahbec]

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THIS!
All of our heals are weaker copies of the other healers, why shouldn't we have our own unique healing style?
And the only thing that makes AST unique is so weak and random that provides almost no significant change (woooow i buffed 10% of my tank's defense....thats like totally awesome, like soooo coool, like really amazing, like wow.)
I miss FFXI creativity level to be honest.

[Jerichai]

There's so many people coming in here talking down to the OP about creating this thread. So many people coming into these kinds of threads multiple times...expending a lot of energy talking about how useless they are. So many trying to pretend their cleaver with reaction gifs and the wording of their insults.

Here's a fun life hack for you folks who do this: You have free will. If you feel a topic has no value, you are not required by any cosmic entity to enter it (and this topic is fairly obvious about it's content). If you feel a topic has no merit existing...don't bump it multiple times to the top of the page trying to say so. If you're right...the thread will fall into obscurity on its own.

Then again I feel like it's ago to have both the mega thread and these individual threads.

[Guilty_King]

AST, as a class sucks major dick. I hate teaming with them, because a WHM and SCH will get it done faster. AST is weaker, and cannot keep up with the other two healing classes. Great to look at, shitty to team with.

[Arragomis]

arent you a giant ray of sunshine? Kiss your mother with that mouth? seriously what is the point of all that? grow up. your doom and gloom posts are getting really annoying, your attitude is poor, and your choice of words, immature. The class has issues, we acknowledged that, However many people here have proven that it is perfectly viable for end game content up to and including savage with players who know how the job works to its fullest. L2P or dont play the class, but the needless bashing and hate of the class NEEDS to stop. It is players like you that makes PF so toxic with astro. It is players like you that puts wrong ideas in players head about the job and prevents good astro like myself and others from getting into parties because people believe your opinions based on nothing.

[Leiloni]

The class has issues, we acknowledged that, However many people here have proven that it is perfectly viable for end game content up to and including savage with players who know how the job works to its fullest. L2P or dont play the class, but the needless bashing and hate of the class NEEDS to stop.

Requoted because it needs to be emphasized. All of it.

[FoxyAreku]

It's funny that people would rather have double scholars than an astrologian right now.

[Arragomis]

You know why its funny? Because those people are ignorant and dont understand the class and what it brings to the party. double scholar is doable, as is double whm. But astro can compliment any healer if those healers work well together. Astro is not a job for anyone. it requires focus, patience, and an understanding of ALL jobs not just healing. By utilizing cards and quick timed heals the astro can help push parties by working with people on great timing of buffs. Using the right card at the right time is more important than just using a card. Just like using the right heal at the right time, if your over healing, your playinga stro wrong. its not a whm stop playing it like one.

[Akyio]

Using the right card at the right time is more important than just using a card. Just like using the right heal at the right time, if your over healing, your playinga stro wrong. its not a whm stop playing it like one.

"Using the right card" the biggest BS i heard on AST. Yeah right, using the right one when they are all random.
Like using the right heal, so difficult and different from WHM, its not exactly the same as WHM using cure I or cure II? *coughs*.
And how many accounts do you use to upvote your posts?