Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
Goring as a stand alone would of course be amazing. Royal after Riot wouldn't be so hot because of enmity concerns but if they did put Goring at 540 pot as a stand alone I'd be willing to work around Royals low hate.

Clemency is a 3 second cast and gets interrupted, its a terrible MT/Oh shit tool. Maybe if your healers are just terrible you could find a use for it, but I haven't seen a single place we should use it. As an OT its castable but what are you healers doing? They have far better tools available and in the case of a tank buster they will have their rotation mapped out already. (and it won't involve a OT who should be DPSing instead) If the healers do require the OT to cast it should be SS.

Clemency should be a GCD cast. (ex Regen) Its instant or close to instant but cost you a GCD, it could even reset combos or be 50% potency. Anything would make it better then a 3 second cast.
Basically this. All the things paladins got in heavensward come with a but.

HEY YOU GOT AWESOME DAMAGE COMBOS....but cause your base potencies and damage are crap, you cant hold enmity without rage spam.
HEY YOU GOT AN AWESOME DAMAGE SHIELD FOR THE GROUP...but you cant just proc it when needed and it doesnt effect you.
HEY YOU GOT AN AWESOME HEAL.....that is insanely slow, interruptable, stops you from defending yourself. Even as an OT you will be hard pressed to use it cause 3 seconds is an eternity to healers that are ontop of things.
HEY YOU GOT AN AUTO BLOCK.....and we just changed all the busters to be magic damage and thus not blockabale.

Honestly, this is why I shelved my Paladin entirely. Even small buffs wont fix them---and its no wonder the A3 clear required moving a paladin to a dark knight--their damage is really just too low, and its not like they needed any of the paladins tools to clear it.