Goring Blade Pointless?

[Riamu]

Hi All you PLD's out there,

I main Paladin and been playing around with the new content for awhile now and I wanted to see if any other Paladins out there feel the same as I do about Goring Blade.

What the hell is that skill even doing there? I was excited at first that Fast Blade > Riot Blade combo was finally getting a 3rd combo finisher but then this move came along... Ever since hitting 60 and doing dungeons I very VERY rarely use it. In terms of my tanking I'm a flashy Paladin, I go in, spam flash to deplete my manapool then use Fast Blade > Riot Blade to get my mana back.

Now here comes my issue Goring Blade, if I'm trying to get my mana back why am I going to use Goring blade to restack a DoT over and over? its pointless

If anything Goring Blade should be a stand alone skill like Fracture (WAR DoT skill) and swap Goring blade with Royal Authority in my opinion. so you would have the Rage Combo and the Royal Combo and in turn giving the Fast Blade > Riot Blade > Royal Authority a valid reason to follow up as the dps would be consistent.

so you have a Enmity combo (like the WAR) [Fast Blade] > [Savage Blade] > [Rage of Halone] and a Dps combo which restores mana (like the DRK combo) [Fast Blade] > [Riot Blade] > [Royal Authority] and put [Goring Blade] on its own as a stand alone DoT skill like any other Tank class.

Please Comment and voice your opinion, if you either agree or disagree. I personally hope most of you agree and maybe just maybe get SE to do this minor adjustment for us PLD's out there.

Kind Regards and Thanks for taking the time to read/comment on this thread.

[Phoenicia]

I do not see how a 540 potency skill pointless.

If you're a "flashy PLD" in AoE, that's good. The damage you do sucks in AoE and you should focus on the aggro anyways. Goring Blade puts you behind in AoE aggro.

If you're a "flashy PLD" in single target you're doing it wrong!! Goring Blade has its place in your single target rotation.. Which is every third combo!

That's what I think.

[Kalamari]

It is your single most damaging ability. Since PLD already has horrible dps it is unwise to ignore the dps gain from using Goring Blade.

[nyttyn]

You're an awful paladin then and playing the class completely wrong.

Even for AoE pulls you only need to do flash so often. And in single target boss encounters Flash should literally be used only if you're completely out of TP.

I mean, honestly. At least spam Rage of Halone instead of Flash so you do some damage, you're basically doing the equivilent of a BLM who only uses Scathe or Ice I.

[Launched]

If you're not using Goring Blade, you're doing it wrong. Enmity is easy, you shouldn't be spamming Flash/Halone 10 times in a row. Goring Blade does a lot of damage and should always be ticking, it should even be spread to multiple targets after a few Flashes.

[Riamu]

I do apologize,

I think I may have explained my position on this wrong or that most of you who have said I am a bad paladin or that I'm doing something wrong have misread or not entirely reading what I have posted.

When I say Flashy Paladin I mean for larger then normal pulls and also I like to make my DPS feel happy about attacking a target of their choice without taking aggro when doing normal pulls too, I do know when to stop flashing when I have enough aggro... IN NO MEANS am I going to go flash a single target to death... that's just dumb and even more dumb for anyone who thinks someone would do that as a tank, that's such a fail assumption and shouldn't of even been mentioned lol

WHAT I am saying is that if these skills were swapped round as I have suggested PLD dps would in theory increase.

It maybe that the title of the topic may have mislead you but please do read and fully comprehend the discussion before saying something. I want a proper none negative discussion not a "you're a shit paladin" rant lol

I didn't make this post for discussing people tanking potential, I made this discussion over the skill and would it not be better for it to be a stand alone so you can keep the dot up and do more damage.

[nyttyn]

Oh thank god you actually know how to play then.

I do fully agree it should have been an independent skill a la scoruge or such, but it at least has 40 more potency over other DoTs to compenscate for this.

[Edewen]

Have you thought of putting goring blade dot on different targets as this is aoe pulls you are talking about.

Personally. Im lazy when it comes to aoe. 3 + mobs, ill flash my whole mp pool then rotate goring blade on all targets. By the time they die im ready for another pull.

[Riamu]

yea but doing the full combo just to put the dot on each target is long lol if it was a stand alone skill would suit that well and since you've flashed to get the aggro you can do the proposed combo with royal instead gore

[pandabearcat]

But royal does way less damage than goring...

also there isn't a single pull where you have to deplete all your mana on flash, you're just wasting GCDs that could be used for (albeit low, single target) damage.

Also if you're chaining flash you're losing mitigation. If you need max AoE you'll want to do 3xFlash > 2xfiller > 2x flash > 1x filler > flash