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    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamFyi View Post
    You do have to consider that Esoterics can only be obtained with a level capped job. The current set-up allows you to gear up other jobs instead of restricting you to one type, and is far more convenient. If this were needed to be implemented, penalties to the amounts of Esoterics you receive per completion of dungeons would need to be significantly reduced; about less than half of the current rewards for completion would suffice, due to being able to obtain more than our current weekly cap. Otherwise, it does sound nice on paper. In practice? It might be a hassle.
    I'm not understanding why it [the amount of EsoTomes received per dungeon] would need to be reduced. If you are playing on DRG and complete a dungeon you would only get Eso Tomes of Melee Combat and if you were playing on AST you would only get Eso Tomes of Healing, etc etc. Roulette would base the bonus Eso Tomes on which ever job you were on when you queued for the roulette. It wouldn't really be restrictive in any sense besides "If you want to gear up a tank you have to play a tank". Which in turn will only help the community since it would rule out people who play a tank to gear a healer then jump into harder content as the healer with not as much endgame experience as say someone who geared up a healer as a healer. Because sadly some bad players are a result of this. They lack the literal time playing said job because they have geared it up using another job altogether.

    I should also note that the Tomes cannot be combined; like I mentioned earlier in one of my first posts that Eso Tomes of Melee Combat would only be able to be used on DRG, NIN, or MNK gear, while Eso Tomes of Healing would only be able to be used on AST, WHM, or SCH gear. So reducing the amount earned doesn't make much sense it would still take 16 weeks to fully gear up a job however with a setup like this players would be able to gear up to 5 jobs completely in the 16 weeks vs the current 80 weeks to gear up 5 jobs (the system we have now). Do keep in mind that means that you have have to run a EX dungeon 12 times to cap ONE type of Tome (roughly 6-8 hours of play time). If you are gearing up 5 jobs then you have to run those dungeons 60 times a week (roughly 30 hours of play time a week << this is a HARDCORE player as many people with management jobs + families don't have 30 hours of free time available a week). So people obtaining a goal like that will be slim; however, it will allow most people to gear up at least two jobs using Tomes under this new proposed method.

    So in short: on paper and in practice it would make sense. ;-)
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    Last edited by OMEGA_HACK; 07-31-2015 at 02:44 AM.

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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    1. Community forums gather positive and negative feedback, if you are saying that you don't want people to give you negative feedback, the weight of your post is next to 0.
    2. I too sometimes wish for MMO without caps, but then I realise that most people would stop playing that MMO in 1 month and I might follow them the next month. Developers will be never able to create content faster than players are able to clear it without caps and grind. The reason why you play single player RPG for 50 - 100 hours (and now we call these RPGs long, some of them take only 10 hours or so) and MMO for 2000+ are caps and grind and yeah.. raids.

    So yeah I can kinda relate to your wish but after a few minutes of thinking I believe it is impossible. The other way is MMO built by players and randomization of instances, mobs etc.. but from what I have seen so far, it always failed.
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    Last edited by StrejdaTom; 07-30-2015 at 11:54 AM. Reason: Grammar check

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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    What is with the commonality between the most consistently terrible threads and ellipse misuse? Is there a connection between having terrible ideas and terrible command of English written expression?

    Ellipses... are not... used like... thi... s.
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    No offense, I just disagree.
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    Xixi Eclipse
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    I can see the reason for caps from the dev side, but no real reason for it to be daily/weekly - monthly would make it far more flexible for players, and no reason for doing all then unsubbing.
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    I...can't tell what OP is talking about anymore. :I

    I'm not understanding why it [the amount of EsoTomes received per dungeon] would need to be reduced. If you are playing on DRG and complete a dungeon you would only get Eso Tomes of Melee Combat and if you were playing on AST you would only get Eso Tomes of Healing, etc etc. Roulette would base the bonus Eso Tomes on which ever job you were on when you queued for the roulette. It wouldn't really be restrictive in any sense besides "If you want to gear up a tank you have to play a tank". Which in turn will only help the community since it would rule out people who play a tank to gear a healer then jump into harder content as the healer with not as much endgame experience as say someone who geared up a healer as a healer. Because sadly some bad players are a result of this. They lack the literal time playing said job because they have geared it up using another job altogether.

    I should also note that the Tomes cannot be combined; like I mentioned earlier in one of my first posts that Eso Tomes of Melee Combat would only be able to be used on DRG, NIN, or MNK gear, while Eso Tomes of Healing would only be able to be used on AST, WHM, or SCH gear. So reducing the amount earned doesn't make much sense it would still take 16 weeks to fully gear up a job however with a setup like this players would be able to gear up to 5 jobs completely in the 16 weeks vs the current 80 weeks to gear up 5 jobs (the system we have now). Do keep in mind that means that you have have to run a EX dungeon 12 times to cap ONE type of Tome (roughly 6-8 hours of play time). If you are gearing up 5 jobs then you have to run those dungeons 60 times a week (roughly 30 hours of play time a week << this is a HARDCORE player as many people with management jobs + families don't have 30 hours of free time available a week). So people obtaining a goal like that will be slim; however, it will allow most people to gear up at least two jobs using Tomes under this new proposed method.

    So in short: on paper and in practice it would make sense. ;-)
    Think we should clean up that suggestion a bit. Seems like an addition of alot of currencies just to keep people entertained.
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    Last edited by SethCypher; 07-31-2015 at 03:25 AM.

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    From what I understand is OP don't like to wait and want to rush everything, Well keep it up....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chihaya View Post
    There were no caps for atmas, but you rage quit over it.

    And all those doomsday threads you made, yet you still came back.
    It amazing Chihaya....after almost 18 months since patch 2.2 you still are that sad person to have to kick a dead horse huh. Thank you for the continued trolling post over the past 18 months.....I sincerely do appreciate them (Sarcasm).
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    Last edited by Madruck; 07-29-2015 at 10:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    It amazing Chihaya....after almost 18 months since patch 2.2 you still are that sad person to have to kick a dead horse huh. Thank you for the continued trolling post over the past 18 months.....I sincerely do appreciate them (Sarcasm).
    kinda hard for anyone who knows about all of your posts to forget how bad the majority of them were. what most likely sealed the coffin on your credibility was the thread you made saying you farmed fates for 9 days and did something like 2k fates, got no atma from them, AND you had proof in a spread sheet, AND you said you would post said proof. you never did. setting that to the side tho, adam has shown that you contradict yourself, within the same day! if you expected anyone to just come and agree with everything you are saying regardless of your "history" you are nothing but deluded.
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    Last edited by Kaze3434; 07-30-2015 at 11:45 AM.

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