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  1. #31
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    Dynza's Avatar
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    Sahja Jinjahl
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 73
    How do you use shield swipe on a dummy?

    More importantly, how do you get enmity on a dummy?

    I'll spam Royal Authority till sunrise!

    (Psst! Dummies aren't a good source of DPS information).
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  2. #32
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    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    Silver Tiger
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    Kujata
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    Monk Lv 80
    when it comes to end game numbers pld is worthless, pld is superior as mt 1-59 but end game dark is best mt war ot.

    its true there's some scaling problems here but still end game numbers beat leveling numbers by far..

    also I main a drg and play pld rarely but in doing so parsing the two mt types dark and pld darks are superior like sure my pld full slaying accessory's but the dark I was parsing with was in full slaying too.
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  3. #33
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    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    Silver Tiger
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    Kujata
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynza View Post
    How do you use shield swipe on a dummy?

    More importantly, how do you get enmity on a dummy?

    I'll spam Royal Authority till sunrise!

    (Psst! Dummies aren't a good source of DPS information).
    so on dps forum all dps parse on dummy's why not a tank do the same?
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  4. #34
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    Asierid's Avatar
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    Saerin Zei
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    I main a drg and play pld rarely
    So how can you attempt to sit here and tell us that PLD is broken and DRK is broken when all you have to give us are arbitrary numbers and DF parses, and no experience on the job at all?

    tl;dr: both tanks are fine. PLD is the better MT, yes but also keeps up with DRK as OT due to them having effed up TP issues. You can't sit here and "attempt" to pass judgement on a class you rarely even play.

    Nothing to see here folks, move along.
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  5. #35
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    Fue's Avatar
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    Washed Up
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dynza View Post
    How do you use shield swipe on a dummy?

    More importantly, how do you get enmity on a dummy?

    I'll spam Royal Authority till sunrise!

    (Psst! Dummies aren't a good source of DPS information).
    Tbf shield swipe is a dps loss over just using authority.
    Which is kinda problematic since pld is already behind on numbers while just using it and drops even further with every halone combo or swipe. Not to mention using clemency or stoneskin.
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  6. #36
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    shao32's Avatar
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    really? warriors now are in they gold moment, DRK's suffer because they dont have enough mitigation and have issues to fight even vs a magical boss because they can use skills like reprisal, but have a nice dps mt and ot.

    and NOW whe have a paladin a nice class with excelent mitigation, excelent support to all party, and only a 150 diference of dps vs a DRK and complaining about that, yeah whe can ask to yoshida to put artema to paladins to dealt 99.999 hits every time.

    really the DPS are dealt much damage to the tank comunity.
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  7. #37
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    Seku Halvone
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    really? warriors now are in they gold moment, DRK's suffer because they dont have enough mitigation and have issues to fight even vs a magical boss because they can use skills like reprisal, but have a nice dps mt and ot.

    and NOW whe have a paladin a nice class with excelent mitigation, excelent support to all party, and only a 150 diference of dps vs a DRK and complaining about that, yeah whe can ask to yoshida to put artema to paladins to dealt 99.999 hits every time.

    really the DPS are dealt much damage to the tank comunity.
    Don't know what DRK's you're playing with. But it sounds like they suck.
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  8. #38
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    Zephiroth's Avatar
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    Zephiroth Jenova
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 60
    np.if u dont have to tank some adds etc.,u usually use 1-3 Halone(shield oath) in a whole fight. depending on the OT dps and on the the dmg your dps do ^^
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  9. #39
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    Character
    Xaenyth Godslaer
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 55
    It seems like each one pretty much has their proper place in the chain...

    Paladin has best mitigation especially against physical and lowest DPS
    Dark Knight sort of in between with a bit less mitigation but better against magic and a bit higher DPS
    Warrior obviously has the best DPS and still good survivability

    TBH I think paladin does need a buff but in the form of more mitigation/better healing to justify the loss of DPS.
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  10. 07-29-2015 09:07 PM

  11. #40
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    AsunaTear's Avatar
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    Asuna Tear
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Well at my static i'm main PLD since 6 months ago and i think it is a matter of knowing the best time to use no enmity combos or switch to sword oath whenever u can, not a bad dps like pictured here at all. We killed Faust at A1 savage with no problems (my OT is a WAR) or dps issues, and damage mitigation from Pally allows me to solo tank and use only one healer at Ravex with no problems at all, i don't think WAR or DRK could do that (solo tank+heal Ravex). And for gods sake Valkyrie-Amber u are a PLD 60 and have no DRK or WAR at 50 at least to know what they can do on first hand so try to love more ur tank class and do the best with what u have, if u think u are having dps issues (and i personally don't) use raid food.
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