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    Seeing as this thread has almost reached 500 posts, it makes sense that we're pretending AoE Bind, AoE 5% slow, Blind and TITAN EGI are viable support abilities LOL.
    It's not about viability as much as the number of "support" abilities. SMN has 6 or so abilities categorized as "support".. That didn't pigeonhole it into a role that doesn't exist. Why is BRD, therefore, pigeonholed into this role because of 2 abilities? I know BRD also has Bind and Silence which are largely useless in most raids. But there were turns that needed them and BRD got that responsibility. T2 Silence and T7 Bind. Oh, but T7, SMN (or even SCH) did a better job kiting those Renaudes at a lower DPS cost raid-wide.

    Oh and DEFINITELY Quality over Quantity.

    EVERY class in this game has support, regardless of viability. BLM has Apocastasys that people "swore" by how good it was in FCoB, now it's even better than ever before!

    DRG has Battle Litany and Pierce buff. MNK has Dragon Kick and Mantra, NIN has Trick Attack and Goad and many other lolviable "support" abilities. Those classes ARE picked BECAUSE of those said abilities. EDIT: Ninja provides the all awesome smoke screen and shadow whatever (Transfer hate).

    Heck, PLD has Stoneskin, Protect, Clemency, Divine Veil and Cover to name a few. Why isn't classified "Support tank". I mean that would shut people up from requesting more DPS at the least. lol

    Back to point, "support" as a role doesn't exist in this game and everyone provides it. There is no reason to pigeonhole a class or two into said role when it doesn't exist.

    And regardless or having support or not, the original point (again) is that DPS variance between classes has always been a "thing" even among DPS classes in the same role (melee/ranged/caster). Why is it NOT okay for tanks to have an 8% DPS difference? Specially when the class that provides the higher numbers, does it at the cost of many trade-offs, which again, I will happily dedicate a single post showing MANY scenarios of said trade-offs.
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    Last edited by Phoenicia; 08-29-2015 at 01:33 AM.