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    Player
    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    Silver Tiger
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    Zurvan
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    Monk Lv 80
    dark non grit lol a3s dark dose slightly better dps in grit than pld in sword so please don't try to pretend plds are fine like you just did.

    and I mean same skill same geared ilevel.
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    dark non grit lol a3s dark dose slightly better dps in grit than pld in sword so please don't try to pretend plds are fine like you just did.

    and I mean same skill same geared ilevel.
    Why do you think that? Beyond add phase and taking tethers in tornado phase it's pretty much 100% uptime on the boss, I see no reason why Grit DRK beats Sword PLD considering Sword PLD straight up does more damage. Considerably so. In fact if there's any discrepancy between the two at their core it's that DRK does better in add phase since he can stun oGCD while a PLD has to break their combo if it's needed, but that's just padding considering it's a timed portion of the fight. My group already stands around doing nothing waiting for Pepsiman to respawn for about 5s.

    I see clears of 600-700 with a DRK who goes Grit in every phase he tanks, MTing the first part of the fight. PLDs were doing that with less gear going Sword Oath a lot - BG's PLD did more than that IIRC. Honestly if Sword PLD was underperforming Grit DRK then holy moly would I be on the buff train, but I don't see that angle as being remotely true.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 09-06-2015 at 02:52 AM.

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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Exact same mitigation? PLD gets a shield, Bulwark, Sheltron, and a better Sentinel and immortality CD.
    Both Block and Parry got nerfed hard in HW, long gone are the days when even kite shields blocked 34% now its pitifull 21% and 28% with tower shields.
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    Doudou Steve
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Synestra View Post
    Both Block and Parry got nerfed hard in HW, long gone are the days when even kite shields blocked 34% now its pitifull 21% and 28% with tower shields.
    I believe we will get better shields as the expac goes on, so she kinda has a point.
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    make mobs hit a lot harder physical and plds would be ok but that's not the case is alex savage magic damage and tank superiority not balance.
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    Tadus Velen
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    oh but the fact is dark has the exact same migration as a pld and also did you know they are tank classes?

    also on top of this darks superior magic defense too so superior dps sameish physical migration unless rng gives you a tone of shield blocks and the fact darks also have superior magic defense.
    Oh im not saying it is fair lol, Drk are better tha PLDs atm. Devs call PLD the tank king, but Drk has the same defense, so what the Devs have to do is give PLD more Def or something that make people think " oh that would be nice". Something that stands out from the other tanks.
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    Daryon High
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 60
    All these 1-2-3 I WANT MY DPS HIGH.
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    Maximilien Dufort
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Oh wow this one is still going huh? Well keep her going! I bet my assistant manager at work ( plays wow but finds this amusing) that this will reach 100 pages!!!

    Come on! I have £5 riding on this!
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    Rap Breon
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade_uri View Post
    Oh wow this one is still going huh? Well keep her going! I bet my assistant manager at work ( plays wow but finds this amusing) that this will reach 100 pages!!!

    Come on! I have £5 riding on this!
    Doing a dude a favour!
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    Thamys Brozenwall
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    If were by me I'll buff PLD in this way:

    Shield Bash
    Type: Ability
    Cooldown: 15s

    I don't really see a reason to be a Weaponskill. Stun Lock is not a thing, wasting 450 TP to keep a enemy Stun I rather coordinate stuns with another character. 99.9 of bosses can no be stuned as an Ability can be used several times per minute increasing DPS

    Shield Swipe
    Type: Ability
    Cooldown: 30s

    Just no, now with 3 diferent combos you don't have time tu use Shield Swipe because you will broke your rotation and also 99.9 of bosses are immune to Pasification

    Flash
    Potency: 50
    FF14 PLD are just in name they don't have any Holy/Magic damage skill.

    Sword Oath
    Recast: 5s
    Description: Deals additional damage with a potency of 65 after each auto-attack.
    If used with Shield Oath Slowly drains MP.
    If used with Shield Oath MP refreshing statuses have no effect.

    Increasing the Potency is just a minor thing. The real meat is using Sword & Shield Oath at same time, It's not as strong as DK combo and just have a drawback while using booth at same time.

    Shield Oath
    Recast: 5s
    If used with Sword Oath Slowly drains MP.
    If used with Sword Oath MP refreshing statuses have no effect.

    Read Above

    Royal Authority
    Combo Bonus: All Auto-Attacks Crits for 25s. (Do not affect extra attack from Sword Oath.)
    Sword Oath is a DPS Stance that buff Auto-Attack and this is the DPS combo so buffing Auto-Attack fit theme
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    Last edited by Brozenwall; 09-07-2015 at 12:33 PM.

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