PLD dps needs to be buffed, current dps a joke

[Valkyrie-Amber]

How do you use shield swipe on a dummy?

More importantly, how do you get enmity on a dummy?

I'll spam Royal Authority till sunrise!

(Psst! Dummies aren't a good source of DPS information).

so on dps forum all dps parse on dummy's why not a tank do the same?

[Valkyrie-Amber]

when it comes to end game numbers pld is worthless, pld is superior as mt 1-59 but end game dark is best mt war ot.

its true there's some scaling problems here but still end game numbers beat leveling numbers by far..

also I main a drg and play pld rarely but in doing so parsing the two mt types dark and pld darks are superior like sure my pld full slaying accessory's but the dark I was parsing with was in full slaying too.

[Blueskyy]

I main a drg and play pld rarely but in doing so parsing the two mt types dark and pld darks are superior like sure my pld full slaying accessory's but the dark I was parsing with was in full slaying too.

Well done, now i see why you kept on talking about DPS DPS DPS on PLD. You main a DPS. Butt hurt DRG on top of it. Who made the numbers? You dont even have a lvl60 drk and warrior. Obviously you know NOTHING about what a tank is supposed to do. Tanking is primary, DPS is secondary. PLD has the highest physical mitigation and SHOULD be used when a boss has high physical attack. DRK has the highest MAGICALmitigation and SHOULD be used when a boss has high magical attack. A warrior while lacking in mitigation has awesome DPS to make up for it, making them the best OT. This argument is getting no where since you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here's some legit DPS comparison.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mparison-Video

[Zfz]

Here's some legit DPS comparison.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mparison-Video

There are some real problems with the video besides being a dummy parse. The biggest being the PLD doesn't use RoH at all, and that it only compares dps in dps scenarios. In real tanking situations the 3 tanks probably won't be experiencing the same drop in dps.

[Billeffingmurray]

[Gooner_iBluAirJGR]

There are some real problems with the video. . . The biggest being the PLD doesn't use RoH at all. . .

The warrior didn't use Storms Path (damage reduction), just Storms Eye (slashing debuff) because of the 20 potency loss. They were both doing non-optimal rotations as far as off tanking goes but I'm pretty sure the video was intending to show off something close to the maximum potential dps of the 3 tanking classes. There's nothing wrong with a dummy parse to show something like that.

[Phoenicia]

The biggest being the PLD doesn't use RoH at all.

Okay, the only situation PLD will OT is if the fight is magical damage based. As such, RoH isn't optimal to use at all (irrelevant in mitigation and a DPS loss).

The warrior didn't use Storms Path (damage reduction), just Storms Eye (slashing debuff) because of the 20 potency loss.

WAR wouldn't drop Storm's Eye for Storm's Path. They drop Butcher's Block for it, making it more of a 40 potency loss, not 20.

WAR didn't get esuna during pacifications, but it's not like they would get that in a raid scenario either since it is really low priority on the healers' list. Considering the length of the video, they lost 4 GCDs. I think it would hardly translate to 1% DPS loss at most. (I'm not counting the last pacification.

[Asierid]

I main a drg and play pld rarely

So how can you attempt to sit here and tell us that PLD is broken and DRK is broken when all you have to give us are arbitrary numbers and DF parses, and no experience on the job at all?

tl;dr: both tanks are fine. PLD is the better MT, yes but also keeps up with DRK as OT due to them having effed up TP issues. You can't sit here and "attempt" to pass judgement on a class you rarely even play.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

[Fue]

How do you use shield swipe on a dummy?

More importantly, how do you get enmity on a dummy?

I'll spam Royal Authority till sunrise!

(Psst! Dummies aren't a good source of DPS information).

Tbf shield swipe is a dps loss over just using authority.
Which is kinda problematic since pld is already behind on numbers while just using it and drops even further with every halone combo or swipe. Not to mention using clemency or stoneskin.