PLD dps needs to be buffed, current dps a joke

[stoxastic]

There's a video on Reddit of PLD POV A3S clear with 740 dps. Pretty good if you ask me.

[Phrost]

Hi guys, I am a new player and I didn't want to create a new thread for this, so I just want to ask before I level Gladiator 30 / Conj to 15 for Paladin, if I should consider stopping at 17 here with Gladiator and getting Marauder to 30 for Warrior. I'm very experienced in tanking in MMO's, I would like to know which is more efficient and/or fun subjectively in end-game content.

From the looks of the direction of this thread, Warrior looks to be the best choice but I'd still like some input before I decide! Thanks.

[Phoenicia]

Hi guys, I am a new player and I didn't want to create a new thread for this, so I just want to ask before I level Gladiator 30 / Conj to 15 for Paladin, if I should consider stopping at 17 here with Gladiator and getting Marauder to 30 for Warrior. I'm very experienced in tanking in MMO's, I would like to know which is more efficient and/or fun subjectively in end-game content.

From the looks of the direction of this thread, Warrior looks to be the best choice but I'd still like some input before I decide! Thanks.

Pick the tank with the play-style or aesthetic you like the most.

SE has a good history of balancing classes and if content shafts one class, that class will be buffed or content that suits it will be made.

Since you are already leveling Gladiator, get it to 34 for Awareness (optimal) or at least 22 for Provoke (Mandatory, can't stress this enough).

Simple differences between the three tanks:

Paladin: Your run-in-the-mill simple, straightforward and mitigate-all tank. Has the best overall defenses and is designed around having higher defensive and supportive abilities at the cost of being the lowest DPS. PLD has no additional resources to manage and is considered the "easiest" to play. Large gap between its Main tank and off tank DPS. PLD is the preferred MT for any physical damage heavy encounter.

If you like to have simplified rotations where you can focus more on mechanics and/or the ability to cast situational heals and shields on self or allies, PLD is the tank for you.

Warrior: Your "offensive tank" and can be considered the hardest to mitigate with mechanically. It is not lacking in any department and has the best self-healing but it exists to offset slightly weaker received overall healing. WAR has a healthy mix of increasing its max HP and straight damage intake reduction. WAR will show you big numbers and fat HP. WAR does the most DPS between the three tanks. Small gap between its MT and OT DPS, specially if you "stance dance". WAR has "Wrath" and "Abandon" as an additional scarce resource which they utilize for additional mitigation and/or DPS. WAR is preferred as OT but can do very well as MT under any environment.

If you like to stance dance and count your stacked buffs based on situation, and/or you like to dish out a lot of damage while taking as much in return (you like big numbers), you can't go wrong with WAR.

Dark Knight: Considered by many to be the "magic tank". DRK has a slight advantage in magical environments due to a potent and short CD that reduces magic damage, but kind of lacking in physical damage mitigation. Because of that, DRK is the preferred MT of any magical damage heavy encounter. DRK does good DPS and is hardly behind WAR. Has the smallest gap between its MT and OT DPS. DRK relies heavily on its MP to increase its DPS and boost two of its defensive CDs. DRK has the least utility options of the three tanks. DRK has glaring TP issues.

If you like situational combos instead of fixed rotations, and like to manage your resources and CDs, or want a mix of damage mitigation and higher DPS, look no further than DRK.

EDIT: A lot of content is very DRK friendly since it is the newest tank. But this will probably change in the future. /edit

Personally I think DRK and WAR are more "technical" while PLD is simplified. All three tanks are very good.

[Synestra]

If you like situational combos instead of fixed rotations, and like to manage your resources and CDs, or want a mix of damage mitigation and higher DPS, look no further than DRK.

Now that DRK mana "bug" has been fixed it actually took away that resource management, burn some MP at the beginning then siphon spam coupled with either BW or BP untill you have mana again and burn it again(unless you need to save it for CD's)and thats pretty much it. TP requires more management now than mana for DRK's as they have no real TP regen skill.

Its still pretty fun job thanks to all those oGCD skills it has, so i will get it maxed soon so i can swap between PLD and DRK depending on fight.

[TouchandFeel]

@Phrost

Try each one and see which you like best, in the end that is what should really matter.
Class/Job balance will change as will what the current end game content is and who it may favor.

[Phoebus]

Hi guys, I am a new player and I didn't want to create a new thread for this, so I just want to ask before I level Gladiator 30 / Conj to 15 for Paladin, if I should consider stopping at 17 here with Gladiator and getting Marauder to 30 for Warrior. I'm very experienced in tanking in MMO's, I would like to know which is more efficient and/or fun subjectively in end-game content.

From the looks of the direction of this thread, Warrior looks to be the best choice but I'd still like some input before I decide! Thanks.

And this is the core of what is wrong with pld. We all play this game to have fun, and when compared to the other two it isn't.

DpSing respectably while tanking is fun. Being the worst at this, while not even being the best at what pld is designed for is not.

It's fine for trade-offs between the classes, but let's stop pretending the current trade-offs are balanced.

[Phrost]

Great, thanks!

Unfortunately I cannot give DRK a try until I complete the main story at lv 50. I've enjoyed the game so much that I picked up Heavensward so I'll have it waiting when I do.

I'll have to try them both out it seems.

It's also nice to know that this company does well at balancing, that's reassuring.

I'll most likely start with Paladin since you mentioned the skills Gladiator has that are useful for tanking.

[Noira]

PLD is the safer route when you want to LEARN the basics of tanking in THIS game. (then if you like pld you can actually take it further than just the basics).

War is the less safe route as it forces you to learn timing of cooldowns and inner beast for big hits.

THat said either or is a good choice . Though PLD is more mandatory for awareness (specially on war when you use raw intution).

[Phoebus]

Great, thanks!

Unfortunately I cannot give DRK a try until I complete the main story at lv 50. I've enjoyed the game so much that I picked up Heavensward so I'll have it waiting when I do.

I'll have to try them both out it seems.

It's also nice to know that this company does well at balancing, that's reassuring.

I'll most likely start with Paladin since you mentioned the skills Gladiator has that are useful for tanking.

30 to 40 can be rough since you dont get your tank stance till 40, but all the dps got good abilities. Just stick with it. It gets better lol.

[Iagainsti]

Hi guys, I am a new player and I didn't want to create a new thread for this, so I just want to ask before I level Gladiator 30 / Conj to 15 for Paladin, if I should consider stopping at 17 here with Gladiator and getting Marauder to 30 for Warrior.

Whichever tank you choose, take gladiator to 22 for provoke, for true end game to 34 for awareness