PLD dps needs to be buffed, current dps a joke

[NFaelivrin]

A thing that could help PLD's shield oath DPS (sword oath is fine) would be adjusting shield swipe to be an actual DPS gain once more, either a flat potency increase or something like "ignores the damage penalty from shield oath" since its, well, a shield attack. Using shield swipe is fun but at the moment its only occasionally viable and only used for its TP restore.

[Giantbane]

A thing that could help PLD's shield oath DPS (sword oath is fine) would be adjusting shield swipe to be an actual DPS gain once more, either a flat potency increase or something like "ignores the damage penalty from shield oath" since its, well, a shield attack. Using shield swipe is fun but at the moment its only occasionally viable and only used for its TP restore.

Would be nice if shield swipe granted a shield spikes buff, where blocked attacks return damage (sort of like vengeance but only on blocked attacks). Would make the move worthwhile in a normal rotation, gives sheltron a purpose outside of large physical tank busters (force refresh) and helps with PLD's seriously lacking AoE damage too.

[NFaelivrin]

Also the only other thing both PLD and DRK need is a means to restore TP. Putting a TP restore on Tempered Will would probably be okay, and maybe letting, I dunno, Dark Arts Carve and Spit drain some TP would make it a more interesting skill than what it currently is.

[Zfz]

A thing that could help PLD's shield oath DPS (sword oath is fine) would be adjusting shield swipe to be an actual DPS gain once more, either a flat potency increase or something like "ignores the damage penalty from shield oath" since its, well, a shield attack. Using shield swipe is fun but at the moment its only occasionally viable and only used for its TP restore.

That's a nice idea. Shield Swipe really is only a TP saver for now and that's quite sad. Or maybe turn Shied Swipe into the start of a high-dps combo? Swipe -> RoH (gains its combo'ed potency and effect) -> RA (gains its combo'ed potency) -> Flash (becomes a 300 Potency AoE).

Also the only other thing both PLD and DRK need is a means to restore TP. Putting a TP restore on Tempered Will would probably be okay, and maybe letting, I dunno, Dark Arts Carve and Spit drain some TP would make it a more interesting skill than what it currently is.

I'd rather not load TP recovery into Tempered Will. If we are to load TP recover onto something, I'd rather just have it loaded onto Shied Swipe. Each Shield Swipe recovers 40TP instead of consuming TP.

[Fue]

It's actually really good for its niche (physical damage). At ilvl190 left-side, it susses out so something like 14.1% physical damage reduction, and keeps going up as ilvl increases.

You have an extra 10% there

[Asierid]

It's actually really good for its niche (physical damage). At ilvl190 left-side, it susses out so something like 14.1% physical damage reduction, and keeps going up as ilvl increases.

So do all the other cooldowns. It is still the worst tank CD thus far. Bloodbath is even better.

[Xenosan]

Tempered Will could have Prevents Cast Interruptions added to it - the addition of job-specific spell casting abilities for PLD makes that seem appropriate.

PLD spells works separetely from their core - interrupts combos, delays the GCD cycle, etc etc. I think that added synergy between the GCD rotation and these spells would make them feel more integrated into their kit.

Just example: If Royal Authority had an added effect that gave a short duration (or a 1-and-done buff) Spell Speed boost to the PLD . Like, a lot of Spell Speed - enough to reduce the GCD for a spell by a significant amount. Would open up Stoneskin & Clemency as fourth hits in a RA combo.

In the right scenarios SS&Clem can do a lot, there's still the MP gate PLDs need to bypass, so adding a bridge that links their GCD core to Spells could make that flavor less penalizing.

I would still trade Divine Veil for War Drum or Phalanx.

[TouchandFeel]

Tempered Will could have Prevents Cast Interruptions added to it - the addition of job-specific spell casting abilities for PLD makes that seem appropriate.

I think that is a good idea. It adds value to an already insanely niche ability and fits with the conceptual theme of the ability or at least the name.

[HoodRat]

Which begs the question...why are we even comparing OT dps? We should be comparing MT dps because common sense suggests that tanks are balanced for while they are tanking.

Because this thread isn't about comparing the dps of the three tanks. It's about a mediocre drg who doesn't know how to play pld crying that their pld dps in SwO is bad on a dummy.

[Blueskyy]

Because this thread isn't about comparing the dps of the three tanks. It's about a mediocre drg who doesn't know how to play pld crying that their pld dps in SwO is bad on a dummy.

I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks of this