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  1. #1
    Player
    Icepick823's Avatar
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    Vhaela Rhathyne
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Why does pld dps need to be buffed? It already was. Besides we sacrifice damage dealt for taking little damage to begin with. Healers can spend more time in cleric stance and do more dps that way.
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    Noira's Avatar
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    Character
    Alexa Nubara
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 50
    I'll let you know when I see adults talking .

    PLD is fine as is.
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    Fue's Avatar
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    Character
    Washed Up
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Ill just leave this here.

    http://puu.sh/jl9mt/19e9a0ea40.png
    ilvl186 with Ravana Axe. No party buff, food or pots

    http://puu.sh/jlet3/6eff2967e7.png
    Same thing with Pld obviously missing the slashing debuff and i had to use enliven to even get a decent time.
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    Last edited by Fue; 08-01-2015 at 07:37 PM.

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    Geaux's Avatar
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    Geaux Getta
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    If anything , they need to rework the crit,parry,block system and make parry (a stat you actually have control of) proc before block and crit. Basically every attack you take is first checked by parry , if you don't parry it you may block it , and if you do neither it may be a crit hit on you. It should also work exactly like critical hit chance was adjusted to do as well. The more parry you stack , the higher the rate you parry and the higher the percentage per parry.

    Imagine if even before thinking about blocking (cause it should be 2nd behind parry and not behind crit hit on the proc list ) , your character basically had a 40% chance to parry and that parry was 30-40% mitigation. Parry then becomes extremely viable and dps stats are brushed to the side.


    And lastly , I don't think tanks should be able to parry magic but I feel Pld should have a chance to block it for around 15% mitigation.

    The sooner they fix parry , the sooner tanks will stop worrying about dps #s
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    Ditto's Avatar
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    Echo Sindria
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Geaux View Post
    And lastly , I don't think tanks should be able to parry magic but I feel Pld should have a chance to block it for around 15% mitigation.
    Sure, but as long as Drk's can equip shields and block physical.

    I'll take a Bulwark with that too.
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    Sir-Meliodas's Avatar
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    Character
    Corvo Meliodas
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    Yes we do need more dps, a simple solution would be to add a 25% of damage self heal and a 10% damage increase buff that lasts 20 sec to Royal Authority, problem solved.
    Also, to Goring blade an mp refresh to each tick of the dot would be good. These changes are necessary because both Dark Knight and Warrior have some extra effect on each of their three combos
    while Paladin only has one combo with an effect the rage of halone combo, where you get enmity and strength down.
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    Sol Darkwater
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 60
    Tank dps is always a good thing. It shortens fights which reduces how much time strain you put into your healers.

    Now in 2.0 you did not have so many dps checks. Soft enrages happened but we're largely rare, which coupled with heavy physical damage made this an ok view in 2.0

    3.0 just isn't the same. Most fights have a food amount of Magic and no physical busters. Most have enraged to build around. It's a different paradigm and your classic paladin fits poorly into it.
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    Last edited by Faytte; 08-02-2015 at 12:55 AM.

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    MaiyaBeaumont's Avatar
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    Maiyuki Shiro
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Faytte View Post
    Tank dps is always a good thing. It shortens fights which reduces how much time strain you put into your healers.

    Now in 2.0 you did not have so many dps checks. Soft enrages happened but we're largely rare, which coupled with heavy physical damage made this an ok view in 2.0

    3.0 just isn't the same. Most fights have a food amount of Magic and no physical busters. Most have enraged to build around. It's a different paradigm and your classic paladin fits poorly into it.
    Um, no. Tanks are meant to take massive amount of dmg and LIVE. I have NO clue why or where this new "STR based tank" crap is coming from. Every time I have been in a party with these str based tanks, guess what happens. THEY DIE. I wish this craze or fad or w/e it is would go away. Want to do dmg, then role as a DPS....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    If you're having trouble making 625,000,000 gil, please zoom out your camera.
    WIN comment! <3 LOL

  9. #9
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    Icepick823's Avatar
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    Vhaela Rhathyne
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by MaiyaBeaumont View Post
    Um, no. Tanks are meant to take massive amount of dmg and LIVE. I have NO clue why or where this new "STR based tank" crap is coming from. Every time I have been in a party with these str based tanks, guess what happens. THEY DIE. I wish this craze or fad or w/e it is would go away. Want to do dmg, then role as a DPS....
    I've been running str gear as pld and war for post-50 dungeons, and a mix of str and vit in Alexander normal. You can do it, you just have to not suck, but apparently, that's too much to ask of players.
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    Nova Leon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 70
    Now don't get me wrong, Pally should have lowest dps and maybe the worst aoes, but the aoes right now are garbage tier in comparison to DRK. The Dark has 3 damaging aoes if you don't even count dark passenger. The pally has 1. This is wrong. We need some kind of dps buff and it needs to be on our aoe.
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