Time speculation

[WyrahFhurrst]

I was thinking that same thought... I started playing with 2.0's closed beta, two years ago, which means that the first Moonfire Faire I took part in was the first of ARR. And I distinctly remember fighting bombards. So it's been five years in game since that event two years ago?

That's been my wonder about that event. We definitely fought bombards and the Bomb King, so was that event 5 years ago in game time, or not?

[PArcher]

It's hard to say. I remember them both referencing 1.x and 2.x Faires. So...im not even touching it. Think Hatching Tide has a similar issue with time, and wonder how the Rising (in what, 3-4 weeks) is going to handle time.

I don't think seasonal events are part of the cannon anyway (Godbert Santa, and how many remember the Heavensturn of the Horse?)

[Mysteltain]

It's not much, but I distinctly remember some NPC's dialogue--perhaps Haurchefant--in the Sea of Clouds state, after saving Emmanellain, that it had been a week since they last saw us in Ishgard (or something close to it), and we go there and from quite a few times in the Main Scenario.

[JeniLinsky]

how many remember the Heavensturn of the Horse?

I remember Haurchefant being a creeper and wanting to pet my flanks.

[Kellum2]

I think by the start of Heavensward its probably a year or so after the start of ARR. But that's just an estimate, lol.

I think we can safely assume it hasn't quite been that long, because by a specific scene at the end of 3.5 we get a rough estimate of the entire story's span so far. If anyone can tell me how to tag spoilers I will elaborate.

[StarDrake]

Use the HB tags.

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Also, officially we're still in The Time Bubble. Time doesn't pass in anything like real time simply because it'd mess with the narrative badly and events wouldn't unfold naturally.

While a little time has obviously passed since 2.0, they're still trying to avoid as many obvious references as possible, AFAIK.

[Kellum2]

Use the HB tags.

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Also, officially we're still in The Time Bubble. Time doesn't pass in anything like real time simply because it'd mess with the narrative badly and events wouldn't unfold naturally.

While a little time has obviously passed since 2.0, they're still trying to avoid as many obvious references as possible, AFAIK.

So here is why we have a rough estimate of time in the game.

Logically speaking we can only assume that Yda died before 1.0. So when the whole Lyse is Yda thing was revealed Lyse said that Yda died 6 years ago. Given that we know 5 years passed between 1.0 and 2.0 we know that the remaining content couldn't have been over more than a year in time length otherwise it would have happened in the timeline of the game and would have actually caused a bigger plot hole of why it's not discussed.

[Enkidoh]

Well,

a Gridanian 1.0 player would still have met the real Yda technically, given that the 1.0 Gridanian storyline, like all the 1.0 starting city stories, were mostly in the Echo - the player didn't realize it at the time but the events that surrounded them weren't actually happening to them, they were actually experiencing events that happened 10 years previously (how the Echo was depicted was different to ARR - it was virtually indistinguishable from 'real life', and those experiencing an Echo vision could actually interact with others within it, it was virtually a waking dream, unlike the grainy, sepia toned, washed out, non-interactive video feed that the Echo is depicted as in ARR), meaning Yda most definitely was still alive at the time those scenes actually occurred, at least in those scenes (the 1.0 starting city stories showed the Archon for that area first arriving in Eorzea under Louisoix's directive).

Ironically the player later meets up with the Archons at the end of the completed 1.0 'Path of the Twelve' story which was the then 'present day' where they save them from being possibly killed by Gaius, so it's highly likely 'Yda''s appearance then was actually Lyse in disguise, but whether SE actually had that planned at that stage is unclear (Yda's mannerisms, and Papalymo's too, for that matter, were rather.... odd... almost to the point of the uncanny valley... so... maybe it was Lyse even then.). Meaning Yda's death would have still been rather recent.

Either way, it's rather depressing to look back and think that only 1.0 Gridanian players ever actually got the chance to see the

real Yda and not her little-sister-wearing-her-shoes,

even if was only through the Echo.

[Chewy2nd]

Post level 57 dungeon spoilers

So, in the Doman Enclave, they mention its been a year since Doma was destroyed by the Garleans, given that this happened after 2.0, around the same time as Gaius' death, does this mean we're out of the bubble?

[Hinoto-no-Ryuji]

Post level 57 dungeon spoilers

So, in the Doman Enclave, they mention its been a year since Doma was destroyed by the Garleans, given that this happened after 2.0, around the same time as Gaius' death, does this mean we're out of the bubble?

See the other thread. This is contradicted by things said by other NPCs throughout the expansion, whose time references would seem to place us within the same year as ARR still.

(I stand by my explanation: it hasn't LITERALLY been a year, just near enough to one that people who aren't obsessively tracking it with a calendar feel comfortable using the word. Something like 9-10 months, which is more than enough time for the events that have occurred to have happened within).