How did Parry change, anyway?

[Kumori_Kumo]

So I've been trawling through threads for a little while now. Either there's no mention, some limited mention, or a wall of confusing numbers that might as well be hieroglyphics. Can anyone tell me comprehensively what changed about Parry in 3.0? All I know for certain is that it's a flat 20% DR now and something about a secondary stat that doesn't matter anymore? Also is it my imagination, or did I used to parry a lot more? Appreciate anybody who can really break this down for me.

[Ditto]

Parry rate use to scale based on your Dex stat. (How often you Parry)

Parry strength use to scale based on your Str stat. (How much damage in % you parry)

It doesn't do either of those anymore. Parry rate is directly reflected from your Parry stat now, and parry strength doesn't exist. All parry's are flat 20% mitigation now. You likely use to parry a lot more just due to the way stat scaling was, and possibly due to your base Dex value boosting it a bit. Stat scaling isn't as good anymore as far as I'm aware, and Dex just doesn't help anymore.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Parry rate use to scale based on your Dex stat. (How often you Parry)

Parry strength use to scale based on your Str stat. (How much damage in % you parry)

It doesn't do either of those anymore. Parry rate is directly reflected from your Parry stat now, and parry strength doesn't exist. All parry's are flat 20% mitigation now. You likely use to parry a lot more just due to the way stat scaling was, and possibly due to your base Dex value boosting it a bit. Stat scaling isn't as good anymore as far as I'm aware, and Dex just doesn't help anymore.

500 parry stat is about 5-10% parry rate. Very little to worthless damage mitigation.

[Kumori_Kumo]

It doesn't do either of those anymore.

Ohhh, fascinating! Okay. So would it be fair to say that Parry sort of got nerfed as far as strength/usefulness?

[Ditto]

Ohhh, fascinating! Okay. So would it be fair to say that Parry sort of got nerfed as far as strength/usefulness?

Yes, heavily.

It's more useless now than it was before. It's somewhat decent for Drk only due to low blow procs and Reprisal, yet even then, though we're designed to be a parry tank, we have nothing to aid with parrying other than an incredibly crappy skill called Dark Dance. We're designed around a raw system that applies to all tanks, yet we don't even excel in it.

Pld doesn't really need it (Correct me if I'm wrong), and Warrior doesn't need it at all anymore simply due to Raw Intuition (Why would you want parry when you have a 100% parry chance cd?). Though it's not like they needed it in 2.0 either.

[Kumori_Kumo]

That's interesting, and kind of unfortunate for DRK, yeah. I can see how that might be why it feels a little tougher to heal them.

an incredibly crappy skill called Dark Dance.

I'd thought that seemed a bit lackluster. 33% uptime is neat, but if it doesn't do anything then I dunno how I'm supposed to feel about it.

Warrior doesn't need it at all anymore simply due to Raw Intuition

That's true with an asterisk! Just to give some information that others may not be privy to, Raw Int is a really good skill against a maximum of one enemy unless you have Awareness. When they say 'from the front' what they really appear to mean is "the enemy you are directly targeting and not a single degree to the right or left," because anything else appears to crit you mercilessly.

[Seku]

That's interesting, and kind of unfortunate for DRK, yeah. I can see how that might be why it feels a little tougher to heal them.



I'd thought that seemed a bit lackluster. 33% uptime is neat, but if it doesn't do anything then I dunno how I'm supposed to feel about it.



That's true with an asterisk! Just to give some information that others may not be privy to, Raw Int is a really good skill against a maximum of one enemy unless you have Awareness. When they say 'from the front' what they really appear to mean is "the enemy you are directly targeting and not a single degree to the right or left," because anything else appears to crit you mercilessly.

Dark dance is pretty good when paired with something else. It's low CD allows it to be as well.

[Jonnycbad]

I was wondering why I parry for exactly 20% now when I remember parrying for a higher % on DRG I believe (due to high STR).