Another comparation between AST and WHM

[Reivur]

I'd sooner compared Synastry to Selene/Eos' Embrace rather than Divine Seal or Fey Illumination. Embrace is a 300 potency heal every 3 seconds on a secondary target, available all the time (unless you for some reason let Eos/Selene die). I'm not sure exactly how that can compare to Synastry and burst healing in a given time frame, but since it's 50% of only direct healing (other than yourself) it's probably more comparable to having faerie healing on a single target for 20 seconds.

Wasn't it confirmed that Embrace is less than '300 potency' in terms of Scholar power since Eos/Selene get different scaling at 51-60 and thus its kind of, you know, misleading as a potency to quote? If it were really Adlo value there would have been a lot less tears throughout the month instead of cries of glitch.

Not sure Synastry should be compared to something significantly weaker.

[GideonHighmourn]

Wasn't it confirmed that Embrace is less than '300 potency' in terms of Scholar power since Eos/Selene get different scaling at 51-60 and thus its kind of, you know, misleading as a potency to quote?

It's the only available number I have to quote, unless you have a more specific example? As far as I'm aware, it's still a 300 potency cure but since stat caps have increase and scaling has been adjusted, it just seems less powerful from 51-59 than it did at 50 when we were nearing stat scaling caps.

Regardless, this isn't a topic about Selene/Eos' Embrace scaling. My original point was that Synastry is more comparable to Embrace than Divine Seal or Fey Illumination since it's a way to multi-target heal, rather than a way to increase throughput overall; you seem to have missed that.

[Reivur]

It's the only available number I have to quote, unless you have such a more specific example?

As far as I'm aware, it's still a 300 potency cure, but since stat caps have increase and scaling has been adjusted, it just seems less powerful from 51-59 than it did at 50 when we were nearing stat scaling caps.

Oh, I don't have a specific example. I'm just finding it dishonest (even if not your intent) when Synastry is typically used for a high dual tank healing or tank/prey CD for Benefic II (620 potency, so theoretically 620 potency Main Target -> 310 potency subtarget) to have people compare it to a Fairy's Embrace when Fairy's clearly not touching 300 by a mile anymore. Tooltips and misinformation and whatnot, but Synastry isn't equivalent to Embrace. On "Oh crap, pop the cooldowns!" situations its definitely better and comparable to real cooldowns. People acting like it isn't and its a 20 second fairy mode is over-reaching.

You aren't the only one I've seen trying to compare it to Embrace. So nothing personal on you.

[GideonHighmourn]

Oh, I don't have a specific example. I'm just finding it dishonest (even if not your intent) when Synastry is typically used for a high dual tank healing or tank/prey CD for Benefic II (620 potency, so theoretically 620 potency Main Target -> 310 potency subtarget) to have people compare it to a Fairy's Embrace when Fairy's clearly not touching 300 by a mile anymore. Tooltips and misinformation and whatnot, but Synastry isn't equivalent to Embrace. On "Oh crap, pop the cooldowns!" situations its definitely better and comparable to real cooldowns. People acting like it isn't and its a 20 second fairy mode is over-reaching.

You aren't the only one I've seen trying to compare it to Embrace. So nothing personal on you.

Again, I never said it's equivalent to, less powerful or more powerful than Embrace, just more mechanically comparable to it than Divine Seal of Fey Illumination. It essentially is a 20-second faerie mode (read: multi-target healing) rather than a way to increase all healing potencies; whether it's more powerful than Embrace or not isn't the question at hand.

You're the one who brought up comparing potency, not me. It wasn't an attempt to be dishonest or to misconstrue information, rather you attempted to make it seem that way on my part.

[Reivur]

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If that's the intent, fair enough. My apologies good sir.