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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmbei View Post
    Thank you for making corrections. Though there is going to be good and bad Primals but last I checked the "civilized" races only call the Beastman gods Primal's while calling their own gods just gods. I am just trying to have a NICE story speculation thread not to insult other people because of how they see the story. (I am not saying you are being insulting just making it clear for future posts)

    edit: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/E...al_Fantasy_XII) heck the Legends on the Esper's is to me very similiar to what I have read for XIV and they are even zodiaced like the God's of XIV. Also it was said in interviews prior to release, that there is going to be good and evil god/primal/espers whatever people want to call them. For me I would like to call the evil ones Primals and the good ones Espers to me Primals sounds dark and Espers sound good.
    Not at all, the Beast Tribes refer to their deities as 'The Primals'. Meanwhile, the Garlean Empire refer to the Primals as 'Eikons'. The Spoken of Eorzea; that is, the 'civilised' races, are split between the two terms, with one being the name the Beast Tribes prefer other races use, and Eikons being considered insulting and liable to get you killed if used around their followers, since by it the Garleans mean 'icons' in the Christian sense - that is, getting lost in the worship of icons (statues, concepts, pictures) and losing sight of the 'real' god/s (whatever that may be - most likely they also believe in The Twelve).

    The Primals are just the Primals so far as I follow the story, there is no distinction between good and evil (seriously, you'd try to lump Fire and Water and co' in with good or evil?) and to my knowledge the term Esper has, at this time, no bearing on the story. The Primals are so-named because they represent and control the primal aspects; they are the elements and base concepts incarnate and wholly separate from the notion of being bad or good. That's also where the question of which are the 'real' gods comes from: the Primals are obvious, real, powerful, but do not stand for the more cultured and complex concepts and philosophies of civilised society. Meanwhile The Twelve are an abstract pantheon, whose power, if they exist at all, operates far more subtly, rather than so directly as the powers of the Espers were represented in their own games, but still represent things with which the Spoken are more familiar and comfortable.

    In other words, if the Espers have anything to compare to in this game, it's The Primals. They're certainly an ill-fit for the celestial pantheon of The Twelve and their much more subtle (unseen hand that guides and all that) approach to those who follow them, and it is definitely a mistake to lump Primals and members of the Twelve together as simply being, respectively, malevolent and benevolent coin-sides.
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