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  1. #121
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    Sontawila Wila
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    I totally agree with you Neptune and surprisingly on most of your arguments.

    Recovering HP/MP while staying still is put there to slow players grinding rate (even further) and thus spending more time on the game (not needed, boring and un-utilized time).

    I don't care that this is needed because they implemented this and that! Who said that it was needed? Why add "new" features if it will slow down the game?

    I really think that since 1.18 the game is being turned slowly to FFXI (long recasts, low HP/MP regeneration,....etc) which is a BAD thing.
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  2. #122
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    Neptune Deepsea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sontawila View Post
    I totally agree with you Neptune and surprisingly on most of your arguments.

    Recovering HP/MP while staying still is put there to slow players grinding rate (even further) and thus spending more time on the game (not needed, boring and un-utilized time).

    I don't care that this is needed because they implemented this and that! Who said that it was needed? Why add "new" features if it will slow down the game?

    I really think that since 1.18 the game is being turned slowly to FFXI (long recasts, low HP/MP regeneration,....etc) which is a BAD thing.
    Thanks. Preach.
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  3. #123
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    Davorok Byrmwilf
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    Excalibur
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    It's been too easy to level thus far. People are out-leveling the content. It needs to be slowed down.

    I'm quite certain that "Refresh" will eventually show up anyway so I'm not too worried but I agree that just standing around to regen is stupid so I support a /rest animation.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    It's been too easy to level thus far. People are out-leveling the content. It needs to be slowed down.
    This is obviously off-topic, but when is enough? Should we just now be hitting rank 50 one year after release? There is like 1% new content in this game after 1 year compared with the entire game. I don't think it's reasonable to assess the leveling curve compared to the content since most of the planned content has been absent or postponed.
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  5. #125
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    Bladed Arms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    It's been too easy to level thus far. People are out-leveling the content. It needs to be slowed down.

    I'm quite certain that "Refresh" will eventually show up anyway so I'm not too worried but I agree that just standing around to regen is stupid so I support a /rest animation.

    imo sitting is just as bad if not worse than standing, the idea of having to stop to regen mp/hp doesnt make fights more difficult, it just makes the time between fights longer. i dont want any resting like gameplay mechanics if it was up to me. The only time i want to see a rest animation or something like that is for weakness
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  6. #126
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    Dora Dandy
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    This is worse than FFXI. No MP regen with enmity means no resting for MP during a party battle, particularly a boss fight. That means you only have Tranquility/Exaltation and Siphon MP (and possibly Featherfoot) to get more MP during a battle. With healing mp costs so high, that's not going to be enough for boss fights. At least in FFXI, mages could rest while DD and tank fought, if they were low on MP.
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  7. #127
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    With healing mp costs so high, that's not going to be enough for boss fights.
    Yikes. We're all going to die.
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  8. #128
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    Sontawila Wila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davorok View Post
    It's been too easy to level thus far. People are out-leveling the content. It needs to be slowed down.

    I'm quite certain that "Refresh" will eventually show up anyway so I'm not too worried but I agree that just standing around to regen is stupid so I support a /rest animation.
    /rest animation? problem solved!!!

    Do you understand what we are talking about? Standing or sitting, it's STILL a waste of time. SP is easy? maybe. But is it fun? not by a far shot.

    If they want to slow SP down and make it fun then I might be for it, but prolonging game time with longer grind for craft materials, longer time to regen HP/MP, longer time to recast abilities, longer time to participate in leves/quests.....etc. is poor game design that I'm totally against!
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  9. #129
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    Skadi Felis
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    How many time would you need to regenerate your mp full in 1.19?

    I don't think it would be the same time like in 1.18.
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  10. #130
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    Aion Zwei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinsui View Post
    Yikes. We're all going to die.
    while there will be parties that kill boss over and over.......
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