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    Sunako's Avatar
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Pictomancer Lv 100

    Physick is too weak for lvl 60 casters?

    Do anybody else have that feeling Physick have so horrible scaling at lvl 60? In lvl 50 it healed like 10% your max hp, but now it heal only 5% max hp. Yah I know you should not need use it in most of content, but still.. Especially in pvp it make huge impact if there is not healers around.
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    Ven Black
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Yeah, i don't even bother to use it anymore at 60, i figure i'll have a better chance of surviving if i keep attacking rather than if i stop to cast physick.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Commanders set help little also, but then you lose crit/det/ss. Dunno it is worth it.
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    Faris Dark
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    Lich
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    Thaumaturge Lv 79
    Agreed. It used to heal around 12- 15% of total hp for a level 50 caster at 2.0. Around 8% at the end of 2.5.

    Now it heals for hardly 4% and is bound to decrease every patch. Would make one more cross class skill useless especially when solo.
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Scholar Lv 60
    You are a caster, a DD, you are not supposed to heal yourself!
    Let us healers do our job, and focus on your job, then we won't need more "Should healers DPS?" threads.
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    Ryan Shori
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    Sagittarius
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    You are a caster, a DD, you are not supposed to heal yourself!
    Let us healers do our job, and focus on your job, then we won't need more "Should healers DPS?" threads.
    With respect, you've missed the point. OP and other casters want to be able to heal themselves (or their pets) outside of dungeons, or in PvP if the healer is down.
    I think with SMN especially theyve realy broken physick. Its already kinda weak for a SCH (compared to WHM) so even more useless for their pet. Sustain isnt always enough.
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Shori View Post
    With respect, you've missed the point. OP and other casters want to be able to heal themselves (or their pets) outside of dungeons, or in PvP if the healer is down.
    I think with SMN especially theyve realy broken physick. Its already kinda weak for a SCH (compared to WHM) so even more useless for their pet. Sustain isnt always enough.
    In singleplayer content you don't really need to heal yourself as SMN, if stuff is hitting too hard, you just use Titan Egi.
    In PvP no idea, I have not touched PvP in this game.

    As for SCH Physick it's powerful enough O.o, it has the same potency as Cure, I see no issue with that.
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    Nazreen Eby
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shori View Post
    I think with SMN especially theyve realy broken physick. Its already kinda weak for a SCH (compared to WHM) so even more useless for their pet. Sustain isnt always enough.
    The real thing that is broke that pets don't auto-heal pets. So you can cleric stance a dungeon on scholar relying on your fairy but if any pets they will be left to die and you also don't have them in your grouplist to see the low HP right away. Fairy not healing Egi unless you order her to for every single heal is really an annoyment in egi-tanked dungeon runs.
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    Natashi Tamaruo
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    You are a caster, a DD, you are not supposed to heal yourself!
    Let us healers do our job, and focus on your job, then we won't need more "Should healers DPS?" threads.
    Let me count the number of times I saved a party because I threw physicks around to help out the healer in dire situations... Well..jeez.. I can't cause I don't have enough fingers on both hands to keep track of the count.

    Seems to me a lot of people in this game jump on the bandwagon that thinks, that when ever players find creative ways to use their job abilities that apparently aren't appropriate for their current job..it must be frown upon.
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    Last edited by Natashio; 07-28-2015 at 12:21 AM.

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    Buff Archer
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Natashio View Post
    Let me count the number of times I saved a party because I threw physicks around to help out the healer in dire situations... Well..jeez.. I can't cause I don't have enough fingers on both hands to keep track of the count.

    Seems to me a lot of people in this game jump on the bandwagon that thinks, that when ever players find creative ways to use their job abilities that apparently aren't appropriate for their current job..it must be frown upon.
    Yeah just the other day in a High Level Roulette dungeon from ARR, healer ate an AOE, I revived them as SMN and kept the tank up long enough for the healer to take back over. We pulled it off and I got three comms for it. Would it be better to say 'No, because the healer screwed up and died we all should have paid the penalty for that and wiped and had to start over?'. Maybe for those who like 100% scripted, by the book, only one way to do it- everything.

    Plus my DOT's were at work on the main target and so was my pet so this came at the cost of just a few Ruin casts, it wasn't like taking a DPS out of the equation.
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    Last edited by Buff_Archer; 07-28-2015 at 01:46 AM.

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