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  1. #21
    Player
    JustaBard's Avatar
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    Laxus Dragneel
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Leatherworker Lv 50
    grinded duns only from 50-60 on my alt tank and never had any issues.
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  2. #22
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    spelley's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Light Seeker
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by dragoelete View Post
    wait does BLM have a aggro degenerating tool? i don't rem there being one for them... or monk for that matter
    Quelling Strikes is a must-have on BLM (even though it is cross-class), which also is used by SMN/BRD/MCN. Dragoons have Elusive Jump and NIN has Smoke Screen AND Shadewalker. MNK is apparently the only one who doesn't have Quelling Strikes or their own mitigation tool. MNK also is more about sustained damage however, and not big bursty hits which helps alleviate some of the problems.
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  3. #23
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Character
    Kaiser Sturmwind
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    As a SMN, my job is to hit all the targets at once, not just the marked target. Your job with a SMN in the party is to tank everything. Quelling Strikes will be used but it's not available for every pull. There will be no damage ramp-up time. It will start fast, it will hit hard, and it won't stop til they're dead. You can tank through this. Best of luck.
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  4. #24
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    Gaston's Avatar
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    Glanadia
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    Character
    Leopard's Maelstrom
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 56
    I got that winged cat minion from first sohm al run. Sorry about itXD
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    Sadeej's Avatar
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    Herodotus Adaar
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Holy cow I didn't even know that's where that minion dropped from. I've ran that a bunch on both my ninja and astrolgian for experience and never seen it once. I am sorry for your pain.
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  7. #26
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    TouchandFeel's Avatar
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    Character
    Vespereaux Vaillantes
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 91
    It's not just that dungeon but players in DF in general. I see it all the time when I DF Fractals and Neverreap for ExRoul. WHM's that use only regen+med2 and sit there on full MP without helping dps, melee dps that ignore positional and eat every aoe, dps that single target separate mobs that are not my target and then switch when I change to their target (ffs burn one target down then move to another stop spreading single target damage!), blm that single target during mass pulls, as well as all sorts of other nonsensical ridiculousness.

    My guess, people just turn their brains off (if they have one to begin with) and expect to be carried through. This type of mentality makes no sense to me as all it does is cause the run to take longer.
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  8. #27
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    Drtoxicmedica's Avatar
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    Character
    Tatsu Masumi
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by GeekMatt View Post
    I know at least 2 good tanks who won't run DF because of players like this^ basically stopped DFing after level 25, but went on to tank T9 and up (successfully and preferred over other tanks) with friends.
    And my friends prefer me over other tanks as well. Thing is I don't let things in df affect what I choose to do. To quit running df because of something as silly as this is pretty funny to me.
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  9. #28
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    Aedra's Avatar
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    Character
    Aedra Laevatein
    World
    Masamune
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    To the OP, You are missing the concept of target for those DPS

    BLM: Target is either 1 target or AoE target
    SMN: Target is 'dot all target'
    BRD: Target is 'dot all target'

    It's in their nature and you'll have to live with it and practice with your tanking. You don't need an overwhelming aggro on 1 mob, which most of new tank do and fail.

    The hardest aggro to maintain when you have nin/drg focus all their buffs on 1 target while SMN/BLM focus all their buffs on AoE.

    Btw.. regarding glacier sprites, just leave them be. A known healer will draw aggro from all of 'em, far away from group.
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    Last edited by Aedra; 07-30-2015 at 05:48 PM.

  10. #29
    Player Talia_Hailwind's Avatar
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    Character
    Talia Hailwind
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    I went Al sohm the other day as AST...

    Tank ran off sprinting after the 2nd boss while everyone was browsing loot and got himself killed before I even entered the room.

    Then I was kicked,

    GG that guy.

    G freaking G.
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  11. #30
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    karateorangutang's Avatar
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    Character
    Celest Ru'milan
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dragoelete View Post
    wait does BLM have a aggro degenerating tool? i don't rem there being one for them... or monk for that matter
    BLM can use quelling strikes to lower aggro on their rotations and give the tank a good chance to rip hate right back... or they can proactively use it early to give the tank more time to gather enmity.

    MNK... doesn't really have anything. If your pulling hate on a mob in a group though you can always switch to another mob for 2-3 GCD's and then go back after the tank throw's a Rage/Butcher's/PowerSlash on the mob.
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