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  1. #41
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    T2teddy's Avatar
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    Fionn Iolair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    It is kinda sad that new players are robbed of the whole "ooooo, neet" experience when doing a dungeon/story dungeon, especially when missing alot of Cutscenes due to speedrunning. Sure one can watch it later in an Inn, but the feeling of the moment is gone by then.
    Actually, if you skip cs inside an instance you only get the opening cs and ending one recorded at the inn.
    None of my characters have any cutscenes from inside dungeons unless i got to watch them inside first. Examples: We all know there's tons of them in Castrum? All I got stored at the inn is Raubahn's big speech outside before it began. Nothing from inside. Praetorium? All I got was the mad dash at the end on the reaper mount...so skipping is permanent loss. Unless you can find them on Youtube like I did.
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    Last edited by T2teddy; 07-30-2015 at 11:17 AM.

  2. #42
    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I'll say the same thing I do in every thread that involves people being upset about anything when they used the duty finder.

    Your meeting up with random people who may or may not agree with your ideal of "Fun" get ready to compromise or your going to have a bad time. I seriously wish the duty finder would burn in a fire and make people actually need to socialize to play the game instead of being silent robots. What can you do though the majority of people seem to prefer the convience of the system more than they dispise the failing of it.

    For the record I hate the concept of the duty finder.
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    Last edited by Jynx; 07-30-2015 at 11:41 AM.

  3. #43
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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    Actually, if you skip cs inside an instance you only get the opening cs and ending one recorded at the inn.
    None of my characters have any cutscenes from inside dungeons unless i got to watch them inside first. Examples: We all know there's tons of them in Castrum? All I got stored at the inn is Raubahn's big speech outside before it began. Nothing from inside. Praetorium? All I got was the mad dash at the end on the reaper mount...so skipping is permanent loss. Unless you can find them on Youtube like I did.
    You don't need to watch a cutscene all the way through for it to appear in the journal. Your issue would be how cutscenes, even from the same dungeon, are sometimes split up into different categories in the journal so you're simply overlooking them. Check again and I promise all of them are there.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

  4. #44
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    The DF is designed with the premise that you only want to form the party asap, with no regards to the goals of that party, hence you take what you get and that is inherent to using the DF.

    Whether a player accommodates others in the DF or is a show of character, which realistically cannot be controlled unless you use the Party Finder.

    Note that this goes both ways. Those who want to speed run and those who want to take it slow. Neither are "right" in a DF.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  5. #45
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    Valentyne Laska
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    Balmung
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    Not really, since the dungeons are designed to be mindlessly rushed for the most part. Once the players know how to use their basic abilities combat is on repeat for the rest of the game.
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  6. #46
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    Cyan Garamonde
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    Zalera
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    Speed Run and Slow Run options in DF. that's about all i ask for. and if you don't care which, then it's just regular DF with no option selected and the party can discuss what they want. I prefer taking my time through things and even dungeons I've done 100 times already. I just enjoy the game that way.
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  7. #47
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMandalore View Post
    You didn't have to say anything about a race. It was clear by your post. I'd help myself if I knew how. I currently can't choose who I end up with, so I was looking for suggestions. Your advise basically amounted to "screw you, deal with the brokenness, because I like it the way it is".
    People have already told you how to help yourself: COMMUNICATE! Tell your group that you would want to do a full clear, tell them that you will watch cutscenes, etc. I would bet the majority won't have a problem with it. The time difference between a full clear and a speedrun in most lower level dungeons is not that big...

    Or you can become a tank, then you will be the one choosing the route.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonHunterG View Post
    Speed Run and Slow Run options in DF. that's about all i ask for. and if you don't care which, then it's just regular DF with no option selected and the party can discuss what they want. I prefer taking my time through things and even dungeons I've done 100 times already. I just enjoy the game that way.
    The DF mainly only works because higher level players use the duty roulette.
    All of those would likely choose the speed-run option.
    = new players would have horrendous queue times.
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  8. #48
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    Knot Destroyer
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    I can't even did Adlo + Deployment Tactic to tank while they keep rushing on boss
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    Fynlar Eira
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    There could be, but they'd rather us take the time to discuss how fast we want the pace of the dungeon to be on our own. Like that ever happens with the speedrunners.
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 66
    I used to try to argue that the DF was "watch/clear all the things" territory, but that's not really the case as I've learned. The DF is literally just there to get you into a dungeon as quickly as possible; after that, all bets are off.

    As has already been said, your best bet in a DF is to be up front with where you stand and how you'd like to approach the content, and hope for the best. If the other 3-7 refuse, you can either leave and try again, or just put up with it. Making local server friends, joining a like-minded FC or LS, or setting up a Party Finder for like minded individuals are your only other options.

    For what it's worth, I'm never in a rush, and whether I'm Tank, Healer, or DPS, I never push for people to skip cutscenes; however, the CS issue only really comes up in the Praetorium (and in CM to a lesser extent). I feel like they could revamp the story around these two duties to simply have the story in the cutscenes relegated to in-game dialog instead, but I'm unsure of the processes/time that would be required to pull that off.
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