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  1. #1
    Player
    Krylo's Avatar
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    Khaela Alteri
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by sirDarts View Post
    I don't think I have ever seen someone tell the tank to go faster.
    I've had lots of healers tell me to pull more when I'm doing leveling dungeons. And, I mean, it doesn't bother me, I'll do it (other day I was doing 2-3 pulls at a time in Tam-Tara at a healer's behest. Was. . . interesting, given I was on an alt character leveling with a friend, was right at level for it and not well geared, and there's the lack of enmity generating tools at that level. Kinda fun, though, and it was quick). Although it does bug me when instead of asking me to pull more they just run ahead and grab stuff to bring back when I'm not expecting it. That tends to cause wipes as I try to deal with cooldowns to stay alive as the healer ran off, and generating enmity on the second pack he just brought.

    But I agree with your overall point. Communication is key. Ask if you want it slow. Ask if you want it fast. Most people, if asked, are okay with basically whatever, so long as they can stay alive while doing it. It's just one run.
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    Jatoi's Avatar
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    Wren Snakelily
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I'm sorry you had to deal with that, whenever I enter into a dungeon I prefer going by the pace everyone else is comfortable with. If someone is new, I prefer to not rush as I would rather not have them feel overwhelmed. Everyone was new once after all.
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    A tank is doing their job best if they are completing a dungeon at the pace expected of them by their party. Because people repeat content for various reasons, many, many times over, odds are much higher that a group is going to be full of people repeating, than it will have people who are new to the dungeon. Even when you get the message saying someone is new to a dungeon, about half the time that person isn't really new at all, but instead leveling an alternate character.

    So, if no one says anything, a tank is most likely to be correct if they assume that folks just want to plow through the dungeon quickly. Some tanks make a point of asking whether anyone's new and wants a more casual dungeon run, but such tanks are pretty rare. Most will assume "fast run" unless someone speaks up.

    So, speak up! Ask the party to take it slow, and to kill everything for the exp. There's no shame in doing it, and in almost every case the tank and party will be happy (or at least tolerant enough) to go along with it. If you do run into an intolerant party (I never have, but I'm sure it must be possible), you still have a choice. You can shrug and go along with it, or you can exit the dungeon. Exiting does incur a 30-minute penalty during which you can't requeue for the dungeon, but if it's important enough to you that should be a small price to pay. You can spend the time running FATEs, crafting, gathering or any of the other enormous variety of options the game provides.

    There's also the option of Party Finder. This allows you to specify the type of run you want. Such a party will likely take longer to fill up, but when it does you'll know for sure that the party members will be sympathetic to your needs.

    The advantage of Duty Finder is that it matches you with a party fast. The disadvantage is that it matches people of all kinds together - new players, old players, good players, bad players, casual players, hardcore players. You don't have any choice in who you are matched with. A tank sets the pace of the run, and if there is no communication, they have to guess at what folks are hoping for. Nine times out of ten, what folks are hoping for is, "God, I've done this dungeon so many times my brain hurts just thinking about it; let's just get it over with so I can get my Tomestones of the day and get out".
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    justinjarjar's Avatar
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    Kitty Monsk
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    Diabolos
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I play healer and dps and it is the tanks choice (not that as healer i will spam psych up to give them a hint that i am alt-tabing from boredom). Trash in mmos are the worst since the fun comes more form bosses and glaming then kill this lizard guy for 1X10to10000 time. Notice that you are 39ish make sure to PF for the last two dungeons of the OG storyline. No one will wait let alone should have to wait in DF, jus the way it is (and the only dung with major people playing ahead problems.). The rest of the game just watch the cut scenes make sure people understand it is your first run and you want to play it like one. you will learn in time thou that replaying dungs to level alt classes is the best way to do it.
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    AsahinaMyLove's Avatar
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Siren
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMandalore View Post
    Is there any way to filter the Duty Finder to not group you with people who just want to rush through the dungeon?
    well its DUUUUUTY FIIIIINDER! <----

    ------->You met random people!<---------- >_>

    If I have people want to rush, and dont even care ask the party, in a dungen -> I dont care -
    Not spam healing or tanking additional stuff some1 picked cuz of these so called "speed" runs! (I H-A-T-E them!!!!!!!)

    They can do this respectless issue with friends or people met by there Party finder! <.<

    I really really hope SE boost enemys there damage output in dungeons more so 2 groups of mobs is already to much!
    Or add effeckts: "More enemys active/got pulled = stats buff for all enemys x amount of them"
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Speedruns were common practice in 2.0 just like how it's becoming now, people are outgearing the dungeons and are just walking over them for the most part, it will get even worse once people get more geared from estorics. You should view this as a positive thing, getting you're run done quicker gets you done/capped faster, and once it's been your 1 thousandth time in the dungeon, you will see why the tank decided to speed things up.

    If dps is good a tank can usually make the call if he feels like getting the run over with, whether you approve of him speeding up or not.
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    Lilie Kalaeda
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    I'm giving you advice to help you enjoy your play style. Did I say anything about ... race? There's 7955977765 players, each with their own play style. Should SE cater to them all and have that much df option ? For example in your case who gonna decide what is fast or slow ? The right speed for you is slow for me, but what if it's still fast for another random people you can meet in df ? Like they enjoy killing 1 trash mob in 5 mins?
    Instead of asking for help, help yourself first.
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    Last edited by Parapluies; 07-29-2015 at 11:55 AM.

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    NeoMandalore's Avatar
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    Dale Moran
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 38
    So again you have nothing useful to say. Thank you.
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    Dale Moran
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    Lancer Lv 38
    You didn't have to say anything about a race. It was clear by your post. I'd help myself if I knew how. I currently can't choose who I end up with, so I was looking for suggestions. Your advise basically amounted to "screw you, deal with the brokenness, because I like it the way it is".
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    Elyza Arcanas
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMandalore View Post
    You didn't have to say anything about a race. It was clear by your post. I'd help myself if I knew how. I currently can't choose who I end up with, so I was looking for suggestions. Your advise basically amounted to "screw you, deal with the brokenness, because I like it the way it is".
    People have already told you how to help yourself: COMMUNICATE! Tell your group that you would want to do a full clear, tell them that you will watch cutscenes, etc. I would bet the majority won't have a problem with it. The time difference between a full clear and a speedrun in most lower level dungeons is not that big...

    Or you can become a tank, then you will be the one choosing the route.

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonHunterG View Post
    Speed Run and Slow Run options in DF. that's about all i ask for. and if you don't care which, then it's just regular DF with no option selected and the party can discuss what they want. I prefer taking my time through things and even dungeons I've done 100 times already. I just enjoy the game that way.
    The DF mainly only works because higher level players use the duty roulette.
    All of those would likely choose the speed-run option.
    = new players would have horrendous queue times.
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