What's the rush?

[Hayward]

Tired speedrunner talking points

Not all of us are a bunch of ADHD-addled kids with the attention span of a flea or X-Games skateboarding rejects looking for a jolt of adrenaline. I couldn't care less about people like you and your desires to break some imaginary World Record in dungeons (Hint: Guinness isn't recording any for FFXIV).

Stressing people out in a dungeon is about as far from the definition of fun as it gets. Chill out and stop acting like you need to get through places in 5 minutes.

[Elvin]

Not all of us are a bunch of ADHD-addled kids with the attention span of a flea or X-Games skateboarding rejects looking for a jolt of adrenaline. I couldn't care less about people like you and your desires to break some imaginary World Record in dungeons (Hint: Guinness isn't recording any for FFXIV).

Stressing people out in a dungeon is about as far from the definition of fun as it gets. Chill out and stop acting like you need to get through places in 5 minutes.

Being disrespectful doesn't make you right neither makes you look more mature.

So, I'm not gonna argue with someone whose main argument is saying that people that think diferent than him have some kind of mental illness.

[Rookie1]

ya i too have been locked out. but i just got the game and i'm enjoying the narrative. I believe I still got to roll on loot so I wasn't too upset not being part of the fight.

As a tank, I have to avoid areas of a bunch of mobs while I put them in a nice position for the DPSs
As a healer, I get the chance to play the game. I mean, in a lot of dungeons, as SCholar, you can just autofollow a tank and let Eos do the job if you just want to heal and won't DPS... And even if you have to heal, spam cure/phisics is always more than enought.
As a meele DPS it can be a bit dangerous and hard, and that's usually fun.
As a caster, it means that you get to use all your AOE skills and get a ridiculous damage done. That's usually fun.


If you go group by group, instead... As a tank you probably are just in front of the mobs avoiding an attack from time to time.
As a healer you can DPS. Is the less boring job to do when you are in a slow run.
As a DPS... just doing your rotation.


So... speedrun = fast & fun
Slow run = slow & boring.

I don't think the issue is the killing of trash mobs. The real issue is not waiting 30sec to pull the boss so that people can watch the cutscene on their first run. Thats kinda all thats being ask in the "slow run" i think.

[Kerii]

Personally, I hate the duty finder and party finder alike. One is like playing russian roulette, the other feels like I'm a politician trying to get votes through any means possible. When I'm looking to run a dungeon or trial I follow this order. A- Ask every single person I know if they want to run x with me. (Often this is all it takes) B- I (and my friends) ask around FC's and Linkshells. C-I place a party finder ad, and try to be as concise about it as possible. D- Assuming all of the above has failed then I begrudgingly queue up in the duty finder and roll with the punches. When you play at 3am on a mostly NA datacenter you can expect dps waits as long as 4+ hours. It's better to make some friends and not treat every one like bots.

[MsCroc]

Hey, I dunno if there is any real solution, but I agree with you.
I'm an aspiring tank who hates being pressured by DPS or healers to do speed runs.
Fortunately, I haven't seen any of that since it's the new expansion now but I really don't have fun speeding through things. Even if I have already done it twenty times or more.
I play games to relax, not feel more stressed out.

[WellFooled]

I'm an aspiring tank who hates being pressured by DPS or healers to do speed runs.
I play games to relax, not feel more stressed out.

Hang in there, the world needs more tanks. Usually I find most everyone agreeable to going at a moderate pace, so long as you're polite about it. Something like "I'm an old fashioned tank, I'd prefer to take monsters one group at a time if everyone is ok with it" works pretty well in my experience.

[NeoMandalore]

They got paid by ingame currency and/or xp for alt class. And if you exclude those people, you might never be able to finish those dungeon since you are a dps (3 hours queue time, maybe ?).

That's really kind of sad that people treat currency and EXP as the goal instead of the means. I'd gladly wait longer for a group if I knew we'd be like minded.

I play games to relax, not feel more stressed out.

Same here.

[Parapluies]

That's really kind of sad that people treat currency and EXP as the goal instead of the means. I'd gladly wait longer for a group if I knew we'd be like minded.

You can ask to be kicked and queue again until you can find that party, you know.

[NeoMandalore]

You can ask to be kicked and queue again until you can find that party, you know.

That's just silly. It's the job of SE to cater to different types of customers. You're just showing your bias toward treating games as some kind of race, instead of enjoying the journey. I'm not saying you're wrong for wanting to race to the "end", only that SE or any company should work to match like minded people instead of forcing people to suffer the whims of the incompatible.

[sirDarts]

I don't think I have ever seen someone tell the tank to go faster. Even though sometimes I do think to myself that they should go faster (pick up more mobs) because I am twiddling thumbs healing them, and I don't like to DPS on trash. But I would never tell them, they either notice that the 1-group pull is no challenge, or they will keep their own pace which is perfectly fine.

On the other hand I have seen several tanks ask whether people want a full clear, and if someone wants it, others are fine with it in my experience.

So I'd suggest asking at the start of the dungeon whether a full clear should be done, and I am fairly certain most people won't have a problem with it.
Communication is a key, when you don't say anything, people will assume that you don't care and just go as fast as they are comfortable with.