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  1. #11
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    Bacstaboo's Avatar
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    Quckius Eventius
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    Lich
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    Paladin Lv 54
    Everything in Eorzea is powered by Aether. So if ur curious as how the guns work. Well think no more i have the answer. its called Magi.... i mean aether. Yes aether
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  2. #12
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    So, I was recently shown lore on how Grimoires work as well as how and why some are specialized for Arcanist and Summoner and some for Scholar, and just what is written and illustrated within.
    Curious about this....source?
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  3. #13
    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Kai Magnus
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    is it possible the Mechanist Rifles are clockwork tech? It'd be far more advanced than other examples of eorzean technology (While still being less advanced than Garlemauld's Magitech) and would explain the occasional animations with certain skills where it looks like we're "Loading" the weapon in some kind of mechanical breach opening not unlike the M1 Carbine's slide mechanism. (Could also explain how the "Reload" skill seems to load 5 bullets at once since the M1 also had a 5 round speed loader clip)

    Also things like the automatic firing and debuff shots could actually be tapping into the Aetherometer since the "Head Graze" skill looks more like a lazer than a bullet. The Reloaded 5 rounds could be more potent alloy rounds vs the aetheric energy rounds which, as far as my head cannon is concerned, would be more powerful and accurate than the aetheric bullets the Aetherometer produces.

    But as all of this is just a combo of theory and head cannon so it's really anyone's guess on the Lore explanation. (Though if the Guass barrel cancels auto attacks for a "Charge Shot" then that could add merit to the aether bullet idea sine it'd be functioning like a Mega Buster attachment.)
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  4. #14
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    Nektulos-Tuor's Avatar
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    Thanatos Ravensweald
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I could of swore I read "Feminist's Firearms." when I clicked the thread... However like that, I don't see how either works at all.
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  5. #15
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    Kharagan Dotharl
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I have thought they where like an M1 with a clip feed, which explains why we can load single rounds or 5 rounds at a time, depending on the skill.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Sage Lv 90
    As i understood it, we passively generate a single shot after firing the gun (watch for the little animation after you auto attack) directly into the ammo chamber.
    However, as that's a bullet generated on the quick, It lacks power. Which is probably also why we have the 50% chance to get the stronger shot without Reloading.

    The Aetherotransformer we wear is what generates the special ammo over time by concentrating our Aether into bullet form. If you look at the thing on your hip, you can see a 5 shot clip next to the wrench.
    The 5 shot Reload takes a minute to recharge because it takes that long to form the special bullets.
    The Aetherotransformer is actually only part of what we wear on our hip, if you look closely at it, its actually a toolbox also, containing the parts for our turrets. The transformer supplies the electricity to the Turret which then tracks our aether signature of the bullets we make to hit their target.

    In regards to Gauss Barrel, I feel like the cast time is us forcing the bullet to be created with more focus than the passive generation we use without the Barrel, hence why the shot is stronger but cancels our auto attacks.

    That's my 2gil on it >_>
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  7. #17
    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Kai Magnus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    In regards to Gauss Barrel, I feel like the cast time is us forcing the bullet to be created with more focus than the passive generation we use without the Barrel, hence why the shot is stronger but cancels our auto attacks.
    That still sounds like The Megabuster from the Megaman series to me. lol
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  8. #18
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    They could be breech loaders instead of muzzle loaders since the MCH slaps the back of his gun when reloading. Still lead ball and black powder, but probably in paper cartridges for quick loading since the icon is a lead ball not a bullet (iirc?).
    If you look at the Aetherotransformer on the hip you can see a clip of bullets with metal casings that are seemingly filled with ceruleum. Whether those represent all the bullets we use or merely those charged with special aetheric properties I can't say... It's definitely more than a typical mechanical firearm though.
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  9. #19
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I always thought that MCH was a watered down Magitek.

    As such I think Ceruleum-based "bullets" are at least used since MCH seems to be advanced/different in mechanics compared to its Musketeer base
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    Saiah Brea
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaMolly View Post
    EDIT: Now that I think about it, it kinda makes sense. The Gauss Barrel cancels out auto-attacks, so I'd guess auto-attacks are actual lead projectiles that would break the Gauss Barrel which is more of an aether shot amplifier?
    Gauss technology is actually a real thing. (though I dont know if its possible IRL yet) the idea behind it is that the barrel uses magnetism to amplify the velocity of a kinetic projectile. So to answer your question, it most likely uses power from the aethero transformer to power up your bullets. The reason why it cancels your auto attacks could possibly be because a gauss round needs to be charged up for each shot. We might need to use our imagination to assume that this limits gauss powered shots to action skills.

    edit: come to think of it. it actually doesnt make much sense that auto attack is canceled. because you could technically still fire a normal round that isnt charged by the gauss barrel.
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    Last edited by Saiah; 09-14-2017 at 07:36 AM.

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