Law Upgrade items need a price reduction on larger servers (Long Explanation)

[Ayanno]

Im capped on law tomes, have been for ages. have 2 full i180 sets. i suppose i could upgrade my bards gear, but its not even 60 yet.

Why are you complaining? Law is easy to get.

....because it's stupid? It was easier and faster to get the upgrade items before you could spend Law on them.

People amaze me. Some times I think Yoshi/SE could send some of you a box of dog turds with an FF themed ribbon on it and you'd be happy you got it.

[Akei]

Upgrades from LAW are a law dump .. plain and simple. Its not the ideal way to upgrade your gear .. its just a dump for excess law stones. I find Law easy as hell to get, its like soldiery tokens from 2.0 ... eventually your swimming in them with nothing to buy .. this time they gave us a dump, sure its kinda expensive if you choose to only use law as your upgrade path, thats your choice though. Doing the daily hunt board kills will net you enough seals to upgrade a full set in about 3 weeks. If you want to upgrade faster, Hunt or dump law into it. i dont see the issue here .. you have choices and a few paths to upgrade. Choose how to do it, mix and match, focus on an area whatever .. your choice.

[Ayanno]

And you don't have to stick with just one currency to upgrade your equipment. Buy whatever item you want with whichever of the two currencies you reach the requisite amount with first, use the other currency on the next token. Rinse and repeat. At least you have the option of an alternate route now versus only being able to obtain the items via hunts before.

....you get law tomes from doing Hunts, which also give you the Centurio seals. Your going to use seals to upgrade because it's cheaper and faster, while using those Law tomes for armor pieces for other jobs.

Do not sit there and tell me you'd actually opt for the longer, more expensive upgrade path. Just don't.

[Akei]

....you get law tomes from doing Hunts, which also give you the Centurio seals. Your going to use seals to upgrade because it's cheaper and faster, while using those Law tomes for armor pieces for other jobs.

Do not sit there and tell me you'd actually opt for the longer, more expensive upgrade path. Just don't.

For me personally your right, I buy gear for other jobs with excess law. For people who only play one or two jobs ... excess law being used to buy upgrade's is heaven sent. Don't assume everyone plays the way you do, with many jobs.

Law being used to buy upgrades is an option .. not a requirement. You can still do the same thing, buy alt job's gear with law and use hunt seals for upgrades. No one is forcing you to use law on upgrades. Having options and choices is good.

[Kogasan]

I haven't done many a or s ranks since he and I've managed to get my SMN fully law upgraded and so far my other 60 with the weapon and some accessories law upgraded with just using daily and weekly hunts. So I don't see what the complaint is all about.

[Ayanno]

For me personally your right, I buy gear for other jobs with excess law. For people who only play one or two jobs ... excess law being used to buy upgrade's is heaven sent. Don't assume everyone plays the way you do, with many jobs.

Law being used to buy upgrades is an option .. not a requirement. You can still do the same thing, buy alt job's gear with law and use hunt seals for upgrades. No one is forcing you to use law on upgrades. Having options and choices is good.

Do not misunderstand: I don't have a problem with using Law tomes to buy the upgrade items; I think that is a great addition. The cost in Law tomes to purchase the upgrade items is the problem, there is no valid reason an upgrade item should cost more then the armor itself. The price in Centurio seals and Law tomes for the upgrade items should be identical, not one double the cost of another.

That is my issue.

[Evergrey]

Group up with people actively looking for Hunts, most will tell the group itself before broadcasting it to make sure everyone in the group will be able to get there in time.
I've spend whole days in hunting parties jumping from zone to zone looking for hunts. Was almost the only way to get to a hunt in time, unless you played late at night when half the server is sleeping.

[ElHeggunte]

Do not misunderstand: I don't have a problem with using Law tomes to buy the upgrade items; I think that is a great addition. The cost in Law tomes to purchase the upgrade items is the problem, there is no valid reason an upgrade item should cost more then the armor itself. The price in Centurio seals and Law tomes for the upgrade items should be identical, not one double the cost of another.

That is my issue.

The problem is Law tomes are substantially easier to get than Centurio seals. They can't be the same price or else people would stop doing hunts and only grind Law. This is supposed to be an alternative (or maybe supplement would be a better word), not a replacement. You may argue that the prices are too high, but considering how the game throws Law at you hand-over-fist I still fail to see how this is a big deal.

[Ayanno]

The problem is Law tomes are substantially easier to get than Centurio seals. They can't be the same price or else people would stop doing hunts and only grind Law. This is supposed to be an alternative (or maybe supplement would be a better word), not a replacement. You may argue that the prices are too high, but considering how the game throws Law at you hand-over-fist I still fail to see how this is a big deal.

....don't you get roughly the same amount of tomes as seals from Hunts? Which is faster and easier then doing roulettes/other things for them? AND you can do Daily Marks to obtain them?

This point is invalid: obtaining either Law tomes or Centurio Seals is equally easy/quick.

[Magistrella]

110 Seals from dailies, 100 from weekly - 810 per week which will get you:

1 weapon + 1 armor + 115 left over (or get an hive weapon instead)
or
5 accessoires + 60 left over
or:
2 armor + 210 left over

+ all seals you get from the hunts you do not miss. So, ask yourself - do you NEED all those jobs equipped right now because you WANT to raid (read: do Alex Savage) with them? (Because if you don't raid, even i170 law gear is plenty)

I mean, there needs to be a way to keep people playing - sub fees is what brings the money. If people stopped playing after 4 weeks because they equipped every class they got.... how many would be left playing? >.>

A mix of Law tomes and Daily Centurio grind should be plenty to equip classes. And if you really miss too many hunts - try active hunt LSes. 6 of my 8 LS slots are for the Hunt. Teach people what a <flag> command is and realize that Hunt mobs that are called out with their name in an LS are most likely dead before you arrive because the person has to stand in front of it or have a macro for every single huntmob.

Besides that - Good Luck - or patience, whatever comes to you easier ('-')/


P.S.: Before 3.0 you needed 56 mark logs (or 28000 Seals minus those that dropped) per class - now you need less (if you didnt get a single log drop) for all classes then before for a single one plus you get more per dailies then you did before