Can something be done about light farming?

[Gunspec]

Most of the stages have been nerfed plenty already, but Novus and Nexus are still a significant hurdle. Perhaps those two could use a bit more help. The other upgrade stages, ... probably not.

Novus just requires alexandrite and materia. The alexandrite maps now give 5 alexandrite each, for what, 100 myth? And since your relic stats aren't important if you're just building it for glamour, so you can rather cheaply fill your relic with only grade 1 and 2 materia of assorted types.

The only thing I could see them making easier is to remove the 80-60% meld chances the grade 1 and 2 materia end up suffering, so you don't burn through as many materia. Maybe make all grade 1 and grade 2 melds 100% chance so you are guaranteed to finish it with exactly 75 materia.

It's not like you need those crit/det melds for spamming light farm, and the ilevel 125 upgrade doesn't even require you to have the weapon equipped while farming. Only my retainer knows that my Zeta bow has spell speed on it.

[elemental10]

I'm working on my PLD novus and having been done NIN's post-HW, I would say it takes a LOT less time than pre-HW for my WAR.

That being said, I grinded Central Thanalan fates for solid 3 days or so and *some* Keeper of the Lake. Contrary to 2 weeks on my WAR for pretty much the exact same frequency of instances......... You do the math.

I wouldn't mind another nerf (it's obsolete content anyways). It would make it a lot easier for the rest of the classes. But I'm not complaining about it either.

[sayafrost]

OMG i did the 3rd relic after HW light farming is a joke, why would they nerf it again. And I did farming on a dps weapon. I just did what i did normally, HL roulette was done with my relic, and if it gave 48 lights I run that dungeon few times, aside that I farmed my relic as i did the 2 i did pre-hw, primals hard mode all the way My only problem was that lot of times there were no bonus windows at all when I could play. And even pre-hw I didn't farm ct, because it took to much time, I jumped in only if it was new born.

[Ashkendor]

And not just lights. The atma upgrade was notorious for how grindy it was when it first came out. It's now a pretty quick and easy upgrade. (I think my average was around 3 or 4 fates per region to get an atma.) For the Animus books, the biggest original complaint involved ridiculous wait times for the needed FATEs to show up, but either I've been surprisingly lucky, or those particular FATEs are happening more often than they used to.

They happen way more often than they used to. I didn't wait more than 10-15 mins for a FATE on my last Zeta.

And yeah, Atma is a joke now. Usually 1-5 FATEs to get a drop.

[Niwashi]

And since your relic stats aren't important if you're just building it for glamour, so you can rather cheaply fill your relic with only grade 1 and 2 materia of assorted types.

The only thing I could see them making easier is to remove the 80-60% meld chances the grade 1 and 2 materia end up suffering, so you don't burn through as many materia. Maybe make all grade 1 and grade 2 melds 100% chance so you are guaranteed to finish it with exactly 75 materia.

It's not like you need those crit/det melds for spamming light farm, and the ilevel 125 upgrade doesn't even require you to have the weapon equipped while farming. Only my retainer knows that my Zeta bow has spell speed on it.

Except that not everyone wants it for glamour. (In fact, once I get it I'll probably be glamouring my Zeta to look like something else for most jobs.) The stats are very important, as much so as they've ever been, for everyone who's going to be using the weapon, which is still the strongest level 50 weapon available (well, ok, tied with Dreadwyrm for strongest).

As for how to make it easier, I'd thought of either making spiritbonding itself quicker or else improving the chances that gear conversion will give the more highly desired materia types, but your idea of improving the meld success rate is good too, maybe better than mine.

[Dante_V]

You shouldn't be running CT for light farm anyhow. Use bonus HM primals. CT wasn't even the fastest way before nerf and it certainly isn't now. You aren't going to really get a lot of sympathy from people here either way. The bulk of them got their Zeta before the nerf when it took wayyyyyyyyyy longer than it does now.

[Dante_V]

Except that not everyone wants it for glamour. (In fact, once I get it I'll probably be glamouring my Zeta to look like something else for most jobs.) The stats are very important, as much so as they've ever been, for everyone who's going to be using the weapon, which is still the strongest level 50 weapon available (well, ok, tied with Dreadwyrm for strongest).

As for how to make it easier, I'd thought of either making spiritbonding itself quicker or else improving the chances that gear conversion will give the more highly desired materia types, but your idea of improving the meld success rate is good too.

The Zeta is stronger than the Dread weapon due to the way the secondaries can be allocated

[MiiyoAoi]

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[Marcellus_Cassius]

We should be able to buy zetas with esos