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  1. #11
    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Jynx Masamune
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    It's almost like the game is telling you to stop playing with random people and make friends to assist you.

    God forbid.
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  2. #12
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    Some people that are attempting Bismark "normal" are still undergeared I found. But others are just not doing a good enough rotation to get through the fight. You were probably dying on the dps check on the two snakes right??? (whatever those damn things are) EX it gets even worse....I will cross my fingers for you.
    Thats what a friend of me told me. I told him I've wiped from just about everything in there the dozen orso times I helped people clear it.
    DF Bismarck = EX difficulty. (groups you get compared to the content your doing)
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  3. #13
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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    Behemoth
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    Machinist Lv 80
    How can you wipe more tham 2 times in this duty? This is not hard at all.
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  4. #14
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    Bisfo Kelevra
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Ppl complain about everything... Its too easy, its to hard... Pff
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  5. #15
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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 70
    Insane hard? Really?
    In game where dungeon doesn't let you wipe a single time even if you wanted and "hard" primals almost kill themselves... yea, insane hard.
    Please, just ask in your FC for help or make a party finder asking for help, thanks to posts like this everything gets nerfed.
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  6. #16
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Insane hard? Really?
    In game where dungeon doesn't let you wipe a single time even if you wanted and "hard" primals almost kill themselves... yea, insane hard.
    Please, just ask in your FC for help or make a party finder asking for help, thanks to posts like this everything gets nerfed.
    This topic has nothing to do with that. Its all about proper balancing of difficulty. It doesnt really make sense for Bismarck (and to a lesser extend Ravana) to suddenly be hard all of a sudden, with everything before (and after) being a lot easier.
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  7. #17
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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    This topic has nothing to do with that. Its all about proper balancing of difficulty. It doesnt really make sense for Bismarck (and to a lesser extend Ravana) to suddenly be hard all of a sudden, with everything before (and after) being a lot easier.
    It is ok for primals to be harder, even lorewise it makes sense. And I honestly see 0 fun in everything being clearable on first try.
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  8. #18
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    This topic has nothing to do with that. Its all about proper balancing of difficulty. It doesnt really make sense for Bismarck (and to a lesser extend Ravana) to suddenly be hard all of a sudden, with everything before (and after) being a lot easier.
    Ehh... to some extent the Chrysalis was "hard". By hard I mean it had mechanics people had to actually pay attention to. The Steps of Faith was "hard" until it got nerfed, but it was more annoying than anything (to some) because if the group messed up you had to wait until the very end to wipe. Long, long time ago in a land far far away Ifrit HM use to be actually hard. Because the average person had darklight or less. And you NEEDED a caster to clear it. Titan HM use to be hard too, to some people.
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  9. #19
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    MiniPrinny's Avatar
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    Character
    Sakura Yukimoto
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    You know, I'm suddenly reminded of myself as a child trying to beat Mega Man 2 for the first time. Yes, the game was hard, and I died numerous times against the boss gauntlet and the final boss(es), but each time I got a little better, made it a little further. Eventually, I won. Defeating the Primals are a bit like this, except you are in a team-based game. And yes, sometimes you will encounter people that up until that moment were brought to where they are (somehow) by other people, and yes, this is unfortunate. But at the end of the day, you have to simply pick yourself up and try again.
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  10. #20
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    Twilite's Avatar
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Boocraft View Post
    It's still ridiculous and shouldn't be like this. By far the most grindy MMO i've played so far and I played everything up to now.

    Why is the game grindy and have a main scenario that punishes you for playing with others that don't know what to do after 3.. 4... 5.. 6.. tries until everyone does abandon leave.
    You didn't play Aion. 50 MILLION(50,000,000) for one level. Or Perfect World, with lvl104 ► 105 = 1.5 BILLION exp. Which will take you about 7-8 months..

    But yes I've encountered this problem with Bismark HM as well, and I feel lucky I cleared it on my first go at all. But subsequent attempts via roulette have been failures.

    And no, we don't need in game official parses. This community will never be mature enough to use them in a respectable manner.
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    Last edited by Twilite; 07-26-2015 at 05:04 AM.

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