AST Sect Theory

[Apeiron]

Which is why they are gimping themselves by NOT being in Dirunal Sect. You follow this by saying AST's shield are better, which they aren't. AST's AoE shields have a potency of 150 vs SCH's 150, it's NOT "twice the potency of Succor"; don't try to skew the numbers. And they DO overwrite SCH shields, whether they are stronger or not.



Again, you are arguing about abilities that aren't specific to NOCTURNAL SECT. Benefic II and Helios are BOTH available to Dirunal Sect. Yes, they are 5% stronger in Nocturnal, but that's not going to suddenly make Noct + SCH more effective than Dirunal + SCH, simply because you have all the complications that come with shield overwriting. Not to mention, Dirunal's HEALING with DoTs is far more powerful than Noct's shielding potential, which you have already suggested they not do (?).

There is nothing that AST (Nocturnal) + SCH can bring to the table that AST (Dirunal) + SCH can't do better with less effort/communication.

Are you are actually suggesting that AST goes Nocturnal with SCH simply because of the 5% bonus on Benefic I/II and Helios, while neglecting Aspected Helios/Benefic? Because that's what I'm starting to get from this. Diurnal offers far more HEALING POTENTIAL than Nocturnal can by using Aspected Benefic/Helios.

The miscommunication comes from me not clarifying that I meant Helios, and your assumtion that I was referring to A. Helios -- which I already clarified earlier was weaker than Succor. I'm also not going to say they don't overwrite shields, because we all know they do. I'm not attempting to skewer numbers, please understand. I don't make any progress with my theory if I provide false numbers.

Now, yes, those skills are available to the AST in Diurnal, but they're also not as potent. It makes a differenece when you look at how the SCH is better off shielding, Divine Wind, and then healing with the AST alongside them than they are relying on regen. This is because that overall Divine Wind is going to do an overall better job of healing the group than A. Helios. Its duration is shorter, but has a higher consistant potency of 100. When I compared my SCH in the same gear as my AST, I found that Divine Wind was healing for twice as much as my A. Helios (surprise! or, well, not really :P).

There was more originally, but I seem to have made a mistake when I was editing.

It's been said a million times now. Please go test it for yourself, because we did ages ago. This is a completely fruitless topic.

I would love to. Sadly, I don't have a Static or FC to help me, and queues are so long for coil that it's almost impossible for me to get a full party during the weekdays.