Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
Noct needs help before any truly useful discussion comparing the Sects can take place. You know it's in a bad place when most of us end up touting the stacking regen effects of Diurnal AST+WHM as the more efficient alternative to Noct AST+WHM despite the longstanding meta of regen+regen easily becoming an overhealing mess compared to regen+shields.
I don't believe this to be entirely accurate, as the "help" may never arrive. Rather than ignoring Nocturnal Sect all together, and "touting" stacking regens, shouldn't we be working to figure out how to get the most out of the sect?

I think the reason we tout the stacking regen is due to the fact that its supposed to work like that. An AST paired with a WHM isn't supposed to go Nocturnal, because they're not capitalizing on the things that work well together -- regens. All of the regens. And with the AST, you don't have to worry about overhealing with their lower potency. This doesn't prohibit a player from choosing Nocturnal Sect, but they're not going to be working optimally with their co-healer.