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    Yes you can use lustrate 3 times in a row which is 600 potency heal but with nocturnal you can spam infinitely instant casts 500 potency heals while not having to give up charges used for other mechanics in the scholar toolkit.
    I honestly can't believe people are throwing this around. No, Aspected Benefic (Noct) is NOT a 500 potency heal; it's a 250 potency heal with a 250 potency shield. It's does not double on crit, and cannot be used "infinitely", as it costs MP. It is not a replacement for Lustrate; it's an insta-cast mini-Adlo without the ability to crit.

    Useful for clutch saves? Yes.

    Replacement for Lustrate? No.

    Why? You still have to follow-up with something to top the person off afterwards, whereas Lustrate is almost always enough to just pop and keep going.

    Please, stop spreading misinformation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GideonHighmourn View Post
    I honestly can't believe people are throwing this around. No, Aspected Benefic (Noct) is NOT a 500 potency heal; it's a 250 potency heal with a 250 potency shield. It's does not double on crit, and cannot be used "infinitely", as it costs MP. It is not a replacement for Lustrate; it's an insta-cast mini-Adlo without the ability to crit.

    Useful for clutch saves? Yes.

    Replacement for Lustrate? No.

    Why? You still have to follow-up with something to top the person off afterwards, whereas Lustrate is almost always enough to just pop and keep going.

    Please, stop spreading misinformation.
    So can Aspect crit. Big deal? It is effective as a 500 potency heal in regards to recovering from damage taken. It heals for about 1500 and shields for about 1500 on an instant cast that easily puts enough buffer in any raid encounter to make the difference. If I hit you with noc ben for a 1500 point heal and 1500 point shield and you get hit for 4k it is still 3k difference in damage healed and nullified. No if you look at it as a straight up heal then you are right it is only a 250 point heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    So can Aspect crit. Big deal? I never said that lustrate could not crit. It is effective as a 500 potency heal in regards to recovering from damage taken. It heals for about 1500 and shields for about 1500 on an instant cast that easily puts enough buffer in any raid encounter to make the difference. If I hit you with noc ben for a 1500 point heal and 1500 point shield and you get hit for 4k it is still 3k difference in damage healed and nullified. No if you look at it as a straight up heal then you are right it is only a 250 point heal.
    So in that same mindset Succor = Medica, right?

    We all know how untrue that is.

    There's also a 100 potency difference between A. Benefic and Lustrate, and when you factor in crit, that's a major difference in total healing power. Lustrate (at iLvl 183) heals for between 4.1-4.2k on non-crit, and upwards of 6.5k+ on a crit. Is that the same as a 1.5k heal and 1.5k shield? No. A Benefic is also effected by the GCD, whereas Lustrate can be spammed OGCD without a 2.5s "wait" before casting again. Can A Benefic do that? No. Even spamming A Benefic twice on the same target, you get 3k HP and 1.5k shield, and spamming Lustrate twice will result in 8.2k-8.4k at least. Is that the same? No.

    Saying A. Benefic = Lustrate is outright incorrect.
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    Last edited by GideonHighmourn; 07-27-2015 at 02:21 PM.