Done with AST

[YuiSasaki]

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I don't get these complains. Why is everyone but apparently me having problems with AST? Especially in Dungeons it's usually just double HoT and Gravity spam - which in fact really burns your mana quickly, but well, for other reasons than you mentioned^^.
Even in all Alex turns, I neither have mana problems nor healing problems. But well, it's up to you if you want to change your class *waves goodbye* :P.

[DarkmoonVael]

I don't get these complains. Why is everyone but apparently me having problems with AST? Especially in Dungeons it's usually just double HoT and Gravity spam - which in fact really burns your mana quickly, but well, for other reasons than you mentioned^^.
Even in all Alex turns, I neither have mana problems nor healing problems. But well, it's up to you if you want to change your class *waves goodbye* :P.

Cold hard numbers suggest otherwise. It sits 500+hps behind a WHM in Diurnal, and about the same behind a SCH in Nocturnal, lacks any kind of emergency healing capability beyond Essential Dignity (which lets be honest, is a Lustrate once every 40 secs), and the card buffs are lackluster and inefficient. Also we are analysing this class as a raid Healer, not a lol "i can do some dungeons with it" healer. It has to be as capable as the other 2 healers in the game to seen as properly tuned (all classes have to be tuned top down).

Nice to see you have had no mana issues what-so-ever in all of Alexander savage yet and that your raid group isnt compensating at all for AST healing in savage.

[YuiSasaki]

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First off, I must correct myself, because I said that I was refering to ALL of Alex, as of some RL in the past weeks I did not manage to go more than twice to A1 Sav.
(Yet, some might flame OMFG TROLOLOL stop talking before you went Alex savage)
Yet the OP was refering to dungeons and pulling multiple mob groups which led me to also refering to dungeons (and equal -> alex(normal)).
Also I don't want to be nit-picky yet, I did not see any other posts from you in this thread so talking in "we" is probably misplaced :X

Yet, I agree that there are still some flaws with AST. However (final) balancing is not done in a few weeks (or at least it should not be), therefore it is to be expected that AST will stay - let's say a bit - behind the other two heals for a while.
The most important thing for me is though, that I have fun with AST, and if I reach the endcontent one or two weeks after the "progression fanatics" is of no relevance to me.

Anyway, I guess I have to visit A1S some time soon to see it for myself, how bad/well AST fares there.

[DarkmoonVael]

Also I don't want to be nit-picky yet, I did not see any other posts from you in this thread so talking in "we" is probably misplaced :X

Yet, I agree that there are still some flaws with AST. However (final) balancing is not done in a few weeks (or at least it should not be), therefore it is to be expected that AST will stay - let's say a bit - behind the other two heals for a while.
The most important thing for me is though, that I have fun with AST, and if I reach the endcontent one or two weeks after the "progression fanatics" is of no relevance to me.

Anyway, I guess I have to visit A1S some time soon to see it for myself, how bad/well AST fares there.

I refere to it as "we" since i am very prolific in posting in the healer forums referring to the AST topics that are currently being discussed.

The issues from AST healing really do stem from its inability to meet the same sort of healing checks as WHM and SCH do in end game content. They also put too much burden on the other healers in this content, thus making their ability to contribute to healing+dps lower.

I love the concept and the visulisation of AST, but currently it just doesnt cut it in end game content. It has to be balanced like all classes are: around end game content, in a top-down fashion.