Done with AST

[Rox_Unlimited]

It was a DRK who didn't use any cool downs and a BLM who aoe'd too soon. So both were "tanking" half the mobs at the same time. WHM cannot cast fast enough to keep something like that from being a wipe. Synastry, CO and lightspeed followed by benefic 2 and aspected helios and then more benefic 2, and essential dignity at the end allowed the tank time to get better control and use cool downs as the DRG suggested. PoM, holy, DS and tetra would not have been enough.

In a good group, I can also spend most of my time in cleric stance. But obviously, that was not a good group.

I'm not saying im the best but you have far to many cooldowns and yes PoM and Holy DS and Teta are enough. That's also why if your BLM is pulling then either he needs help or your tank needs help.

[jgg1988]

I dont understand people saying cant heal big pulls in lvl 60 dungeons as AST. Im astrologian and i can heal all big pulls in dungeons 60 even if the tank gear sucks.

[Yumi_umi]

Ast was made for pvp guys >_> lol
-Mobile Lightspeed blizzard chain binding ppl = beats holy spam rooting
- aspected benific ( noct ) is so broken in pvp its hilarious i can cast a weaker cure/ 1.4k hp shield every second or so lol as if i was spamming a whm regen on myself
-ewer card, luminous, mana draw = never go oom
- celestial opposition -> retrodegradaton = loool
-lightspeed aoe heal spam as ppl try to interrupt ur casts lol
- lightspeed stella ppl loooooooooooool

Ast in pve tho..
- majority say its alright but it's weaker than whm/ sch.

No point trying to deny it cuz its true. How se will buff it without breaking it will be as hard as ppl clearing t5 in under/ minimum ilvl without echo

[o3o]

Pvp astro is OP! By far the best pvp healer.


But yeah it sucks in pve. Plain and simple. It just steps on too meny jobs toes (sch/whm/brd) but is way worse at everything. Jack of all trades but master of none type deal.

[Elim]

My healer partner and I have been together/in same static for... well since 2.0 first coil progression. I hate him he's a jerk. <3 JK...maybe. We trust eachother and know eachother. That's why I wasn't surprised when he asked me to switch back to SCH from AST. It was going to happen. I felt it. And to be honest, I was glad to switch. We are progressing Alex savage, and while AST is clearly capable, it's simply not as good as SCH+WHM. It's too bad because I LOVE the look of AST. I love their weapon. I love their flashy moves. I love the idea of buffing...

[Tegh]

AST is very capable of doing A1S. I healed through Faust w/ it. Couldn't get further b/c AST dps is too low though, lol. I had to switch back to SCH.

Also, Celestial Opposition works on Lightspeed. I have less MP problems playing the class after the buffs.

The class is still inferior to WHM/SCH, and Selene is better at buffing than the supposed buff class.

[Rahaya]

AST is very capable of doing A1S. I healed through Faust w/ it. Couldn't get further b/c AST dps is too low though, lol. I had to switch back to SCH.

Also, Celestial Opposition works on Lightspeed. I have less MP problems playing the class after the buffs.

The class is still inferior to WHM/SCH, and Selene is better at buffing than the supposed buff class.

The Selene napkin math I find a bit questionable. Namely 3% haste != 3% damage increase, as it doesn't affect DoTs or OGCDs. It's up 50% of the time if Selene is on Sic, but that also means it isn't timed for burst phases, and you can't use Eos in order to have it. Depending on party makeup, Selene is negligible. But no one cares about that, they'd rather assume the inflated DPS contribution instead.

Literally all that's left to fix on AST is Nocturnal Sect and Celestial Opposition. And adjusting Shuffle to not draw the same card.

[Vlady]

Let them go back to scholar. Some people just expect a job to be over powered because it's new. Astro is fine and heals as well as rubber other heales.

[MidnightTundra]

Let them go back to scholar. Some people just expect a job to be over powered because it's new. Astro is fine and heals as well as rubber other heales.

Either you don't have a 60 SCH or you're fine being the "balanced" guy compared to an "overpowered" guy. I'm an i187 AST and I pretty much pour everything into this class. Why? Because it's really, really fun. Fun > all for me at this point. As an AST and a SCH, I don't ignore what my SCH is capable of and what my AST is capable of.

There's only so much you can do with AST compared to SCH. I don't have an instant AoE heal. I don't have oGCD damage nukes. I don't have a pet healing every GCD. I don't have the AoE or single target damage potential as a SCH. I can't mitigate damage anywhere near what a SCH can.

As an AST, I have mobile healing and random buffs. I'm the only healer who can grant TP/MP. I'm the only healer who can reduce oGCDs. I can't think of anything else to be honest.

I feel like we're sacrificing too much just because we have these random buffs. I like playing cards in battle when I'm healing and DPSing. I like the RNG and the player-based management of the cards. I do not like that I'm being held back because the developers gave me cards. I do not like that I work twice as hard as my SCH (which is fun for me) and I look at my parser and see my AST either behind in HPS or DPS.

AST is not ideal in Raid (People like strong mitigation and DPSing healers), Dungeons (Pet and Bane. Period.) or Trials (Pet allows a lot of room to DPS).

I've made AST work because healing has been really easy so far. I've made it work because it's fun as hell. People aren't arguing the fact that AST isn't fine. They're arguing the fact that the other healers are better because you're in direct competition for a slot with them.

[Nasrin]

Literally all that's left to fix on AST is Nocturnal Sect and Celestial Opposition. And adjusting Shuffle to not draw the same card.

Would literally kill for these to be fixed :3