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    yes. it has 5 completion steps (muscle memory, then name+brand+brand, and IGII+CSII+CSII), for a total of 1446/1436. This requires a very high craftmanship to pull off, as anything short of around 750 means you won't complete. If you have excess CP, you also have some flexibility if a good state pops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cearka View Post
    yes. it has 5 completion steps (muscle memory, then name+brand+brand, and IGII+CSII+CSII), for a total of 1446/1436. This requires a very high craftmanship to pull off, as anything short of around 750 means you won't complete. If you have excess CP, you also have some flexibility if a good state pops.
    Can you check out the 60 2 star rotation OP. His name/brand data conflicts with yours and I am wondering if you are missing your numbers from name/brand 3 and actually used your number from the 4th hit by mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rath View Post
    Can you check out the 60 2 star rotation OP. His name/brand data conflicts with yours and I am wondering if you are missing your numbers from name/brand 3 and actually used your number from the 4th hit by mistake.
    Seems that way, yes.


    My data: 749 Craftmanship
    12x Flawless synthesis 480 progress

    [Ingen II finisher]
    1th Brand: 343
    2th Brand: 273
    3th Brand: 217
    CF II: 176
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    Thanks for your test info Aeyis.
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    Last edited by Rath; 07-27-2015 at 01:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Seems that way, yes.


    My data: 749 Craftmanship
    12x Flawless synthesis 480 progress

    [Ingen II finisher]
    1th Brand: 343
    2th Brand: 273
    3th Brand: 217
    CF II: 176
    the 3rd hit was bigger then CSII, I checked again, but thats irrelevant since you don't need the 3rd brand to complete. you can use CSII instead and still save 6 cp.

    it would appear between 749 and 752 you get 4 points different on the brand 1, 3 points different on brand 2, no difference on CSII.

    using Aeyis's numbers, that 3rd brand is also unnecessary. if he were to drop the 3rd brand in favor of CSII, he'd still get 1448/1436, meaning still completion with 6 cp saved. Even if he opened iwth muscle memory, that still makes for 1441/1436. basically that 3rd brand is causing him to overshoot and cost 6 extra cp, which may or may not beable to contribute to something else.

    so there isn't a descrepency so much as simple change in numbers from only 3 points of craft. I would go as far to say now, seeing aeyis's numbers, that 749 is now the BOTTOM craft you can have to complete with 2x brand 2x csII vs 3x brand 1x csII

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    actually that descrepency might not be from those 3 points of craft now that i think about it. The descrepency comes from the fact that brand is affected by remainign progress. Aeyis does his brand at 480. I do mine at 473. This, AND/OR the difference in craft, could account for the 4 point difference. in my original test, I tried doing a brand at 0 progress, and the difference was massively different (442), so brand is obviously really sensitive to its starting point.
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    Last edited by cearka; 07-27-2015 at 10:25 AM.