What does a DRK want in a party?

[Jim_Berry]

Oh, I know! I know for certain. But in all the many many dungeons, trials and raids I've run, I've never ever managed to convince a Ninja to let me apply it instead. I always see my icon up for three seconds before they replace it with theirs. I wanna be useful, but they won't let me! So if they're gonna do it anyway, I might as well make use of it.

As a NIN, even when there is a WAR present, if he is main tanking, I start off with Dancing Edge (I figure I do this to give the WAR time to build other things first). Other than that, I wouldn't bother with it for the rest of the fight unless that WAR ISN'T doing it or he asks me to do it. There were times, though, where a WAR used Storm Edge immediately.

[ArdorGrey]

DRK PLD - why? DRK has great DPS parsed 973 dps on Faust Savage as DRK (ot). I don't give one crap about Warriors - only leveling one just to see how zzzzzz this class is. Dark Knight as OT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> War in my opinion - come on warriors, bite me! And oh, we have amazing MAGICAL defenses, works like magic against the oppressors after faust. I love PLD/DRK combo, living dead, Hallowed ground - two sword classes - fk warriors lol - oh and for that ''slashing debuff'' I PREFER NINJA > Warrior - they bring more raid utility aswell. ^__________________________^////////////////////////////////////

I.... Think anything I could say about this post, is made apparent by simply reading it in the first place.

[PWilson]

Hell, Paladins can answer too if you want.

BLM/BLM + SCH(w/Selene). As long as the world is exploding in fire, I'm having a good time.

Why yes, I do enjoy a challenge.

[ZDamned]

They're analogous, they override each other.

Mathematically, there is absolutely no reason for a warrior MT, or OT to have the ninja apply the slashing De-buff.

As an Off tank warrior, you should not be using Butchers Block anyway, as it's only 20 potency over 3 GCD's higher than Storms Eye.
So the warrior will sacrifice 20 potency but a ninja will sacrifice 60 potency in 1 GCD, while being capable of outputting more power per potency.

Basically, a Warrior refusing to do it, gimps the raid with a ninja present. Unless your Ninja is absolutely terrible, or 20~ ilvls below you.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Other Tanks not insisting on MTing cause Darks are considered squishy

[The_NPC]

WHM/SCH (haven't gotten AST enouf to say anything yet) & any 2 DPS (I like getting a Goad but I haven't gotten enouf NIN's that actually use it on me... would probably get it more if SE added a TP bar to the party list for DoW classes so those with the ability to give TP can see when the teams low on it)

[ZeratoTyrael]

Does storms path not have a place anymore? O_o or does something else overwrite it now?

[Kumori_Kumo]

Mathematically...

Read the whole thread.

Does storms path not have a place anymore? O_o or does something else overwrite it now?

Answered on page one!

[UncleCarmine]

As the other tank in the author's FC, I can verify that no ninja I have seen will EVER let the warrior slashing debuff remain up. I have come to believe that many on the Aether cluster view this icon as a direct challenge, and will take the first opportunity that presents itself to bring it low.

Offtopic: I've been enjoying both healers when tanking as a DRK, AST makes me a little nervous when I drop down to the 30-40% range. I know the Essential Dignity is coming, it's just scary for me to be down there.

[spelley]

As the other tank in the author's FC, I can verify that no ninja I have seen will EVER let the warrior slashing debuff remain up. I have come to believe that many on the Aether cluster view this icon as a direct challenge, and will take the first opportunity that presents itself to bring it low.

Offtopic: I've been enjoying both healers when tanking as a DRK, AST makes me a little nervous when I drop down to the 30-40% range. I know the Essential Dignity is coming, it's just scary for me to be down there.

ASTs love to give tanks heart attacks by doing that.