For those who don`t get the problem with red scrips...

[Sessurea]

I gave up crafting for the expansion, but this seems so weird.

Never has crafting been less valued by the community , personally I haven't spent a gil since expansion, and you guys talk about these huge gates?

If you guys do this huge grind, what stuff will you craft to make it worthwhile? OR is it in the hopes that worthwhile stuff will come? Or is it just good old ff min/max mentality?

[DreameR7g]

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Very true. However, variety comes with time. They are simply building the foundation to this new system they implemented ever since Heavensward. As a foundation, I believe it's great from a business standpoint and a playing standpoint. Heck, I calculated how long it would take if you knew what you were doing and out of an entire week, it would only take about .08% of your total time to max out your 450 red scrips for both gatherer and crafter. Once you are capped out, go do something else. There's a reason we have multiple options and avenues to explore in this game.

[DreameR7g]

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For starters, ilvl180 crafter/gatherer gear. People would leap at the chance to do that rather than go through the red scrips. Those who do go for the red scrips will get that advantage and advantage is huge when it comes to economy.

[Hix]

I capped crafting red scripts in 30 minutes. I self-gathered the mats for it in 1 hour. I can't get 450 esoterics in one and a half hours.

[Chrolo]

Its not the time to cap red scrip which is the problem, but the amount of time i have to spend gathering favors. Sure i can aim for scrip gear, but thats just gimping yourself inthe long run.

[DreameR7g]

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I don't get what you mean. Could you please expand upon what you said? ^_^

[Chrolo]

To craft 2 star stuff you need red scrip mats, but additionally to the red scrips you also have to trade 20 mats you get from gathering favor nodes. To gather them you need red gatherer scrips.
The buff lasts 15 minutes and you get 5 scrolls to buff you per 50 scrips. So you have 45 scrolls which each lasts 15 minutes. To not waste them you gotta keep gathering the whole 15 mins. This times 45 = over 11 hours of mindless gathering per week

[DreameR7g]

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Oh I see. Eh, 11 hours over an entire week isn't actually as great as it seems when you stack it up with your total week time of 168 hours. 11 divided by 168 is 0.06% roughly of your total week time. Barely anything. XD And plus, this gives red scrips longevity past gearing up.

[Chrolo]

Im not disliking the new system as much as some people here, but i am sacrificing my raid time already due to this. Also total weektime includes alot of sleep

Still doing it because i like working torwards a goal that doesnt include doing the same dungeon over and over

[Lyrinn]

Oh I see. Eh, 11 hours over an entire week isn't actually as great as it seems when you stack it up with your total week time of 168 hours. 11 divided by 168 is 0.06% roughly of your total week time. Barely anything. XD And plus, this gives red scrips longevity past gearing up.

There's this thing called having a life. Some (most) people have to leave the computer to go to work for 8 hours a day, sleep, and other misc. activities. Suddenly those 11 hours look a lot bigger.