Ideas to replace or rework dissipation

[JakzChurchill]

It's not completely useless in endgame, if theres a lot of damage going about and you need lustrates, indomndibility to keep everyone up those extra stacks on aetherflow outweigh the healing potency of your faerie, in context not in numbers.

But it is the oh shit button of oh shit buttons and the 20% healing potency is overall meh. It needs to be changed so at the very least your faerie comes back after the 30 seconds automatically and increase the healing potency or add a crit % increase (play to us scholar egos)

[o3o]

It's an oh shit button you nubs. Your not sopposed to use it unless it's needed to save the party/prevent a wipe. It was ment to be about as spammable as benediction and hollowed ground. For when you ABSOLUTELY must have aether flow stacks when you don't have any.

Also the fairies 300 potency is nowhere near your 300 potency. Her 300 is more like your 200.

My chocobo heals for more then eos does now.

[ckc22]

It's an oh shit button you nubs.

The point is that it's not a good one.

[Cynfael]

The point is that it's not a good one.

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This, for anyone else just tuning in to this month-old series of discussions about Dissipation. The oh-shit button needs to be pretty good if it has a serious tradeoff built-in, and this one isn't nearly good enough to warrant its use as such.

If it reset and/or eliminated the CD on Aetherflow abilities while active, I could see its emergency utility improving dramatically, though.

[Adrasteia]

The point is that it's not a good one.

Exactly. Three Aetherflow stacks is nice, but the +20% healing just barely covers the loss of Eos/Selene, especially if you're trying to squeeze in extra DPS. The fact that you have to resummon your faerie afterwards is the icing on the cake, because if I'm in a desperate emergency that demands a giant bundle of healing, I've almost assuredly already blown Swiftcast on Resurrection or an ET Adlo.

[DarkmoonVael]

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This, for anyone else just tuning in to this month-old series of discussions about Dissipation. The oh-shit button needs to be pretty good if it has a serious tradeoff built-in, and this one isn't nearly good enough to warrant its use as such.

If it reset and/or eliminated the CD on Aetherflow abilities while active, I could see its emergency utility improving dramatically, though.

Also, the healing buff you get from Dissipation really needs to effect Lustrate and Indomnibility. I think i am sitting at 2 legitimate uses of Dissipation in a raid for healing purposes right now. Its not Celestial Opposition style terrible, but Dissipation could do with some tweaking, even giving you an instant aoe heal when you use it and 3 aetherflow stack would be good.

[Blessedbythesun]

I can account to the claim that it has use in endgame, mostly savage right now at this point. I but one of the few, if not only, that doesn't see this ability as an "oh shit" desperation ability.

You have to be aware that you'll be needing to use more than 3 aetherflow abilities in less than the minute it takes Aetherflow to come off of cool down. That's basically all it's good for in terms of healing.

Everything else about this skill is negligible until you try to apply it's use in content you really shouldn't need it in where it becomes detrimental.

[Cynfael]

I can account to the claim that it has use in endgame, mostly savage right now at this point. I but one of the few, if not only, that doesn't see this ability as an "oh shit" desperation ability. You have to be aware that you'll be needing to use more than 3 aetherflow abilities in less than the minute it takes Aetherflow to come off of cool down. That's basically all it's good for in terms of healing.

Everything else about this skill is negligible until you try to apply it's use in content you really shouldn't need it in where it becomes detrimental.

- It's a crappy oh-shit button. However, this is what Yoshi and team tell us it is for. *headscratch*
- It's really nice for pushing additional DPS when you won't need to heal. That's really more a matter of players taking this lemon skill and making lemonade out of it.
- There is rarely ever a time where you are going to plan to use so many Aetherflow stacks for healing purposes and can't or shouldn't just otherwise use the rest of your healing kit since restoring your healing buddy will take a small MP dump along with a Swiftcast (or several seconds of doing nothing, in which case DPSing would have been preferable).

It's not that people don't "get" the skill; it's that it still sucks for what SE tells us it was intended to be.

[Blessedbythesun]

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Sadly, when I was forced to use it, I can imagine Yoshi P and the rest of the devs saying, in a sith like voice, "Good! Now eat Eos." I have no ideal how I'm going going to apply the skill until I move on to A2 savage and onward. I don't like the ability anymore than anymore than any one else here. I'm just saying, to SE, it's working as intended apparently. You know they aren't fond of us playing to far outside the box they made after FFXI.

[Tegh]

My only problem w/ Dissipation is that you have to resummon fairy. Swiftcast + Summon uses a GCD that would be better spent healing. Sometimes this isn't a problem though. I use Dissipation near the end of fights so I don't need to resummon.

btw, I forgot that Rouse exists. Rouse should be on CD when you use Dissipation, so you don't lose extra healing.