Why is crafting so useless?

[Magis]

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First, your prices are extremely exaggerated. They were never that high on Excalibur... a legacy server.

Second, people charged for what people would buy em for. The market settles to what people can afford from undercutting. Also you aren't just paying for the mats but also the crafters effort to get to that level. Otherwise, please do it yourself.

Also you act like you were forced to buy fully melded crafted gear. That was not the case, there is other options.

[Giantbane]

Sorry, but people asking for 100K gil for one single draconian HQ pot or food from me is enough.
I don't really like the idea of having to dish out 50M gil for gear to be able to raid (that's something crafters would actually like).

I don't mind crafts being more useful, I actually enjoy crafting a lot, but it has to stay the hell away from raiding.

Relic was a nice show of greedness. All items could be crafted together under 1M gil but crafters were asking for 1M gil each. People who didn't have crafters or crafter friends were f*cked.

If they didn't turn crafting into such a pain in the ass, then there would be more crafters. More crafters mean more competition and lower prices.

By making it so that no one wants to put up with all the extra crap, enjoy getting raked over the coals by the precious few that actually stuck with it.

[Kyonika]

Why? Cuz they were too OP? ...idk, why does anything get nerfed?

Edit: tbh, I'll probably only level my crafts until I can wear those cute yellow mittens with the sewn-on buttons :3

[StrejdaTom]

Not much of a raider then huh. Any real raider would love to have an additional source of equipment.

Sure, I am not a raider because I don't like the idea of raid content being gated behind gil wall.

[Kallera]

Keep in mind that compared to 2.0 there's actually less glamour oppotunities due to the fact that a lot of armor is copypasted and class restricted.

The scrips do not help either. I'm not there yet, but I can see why crafters are disappointed with more hurdles just to do "crafting for crafters."

Sure, I am not a raider because I don't like the idea of raid content being gated behind gil wall.

That would not be the case even if crafters could reach raid gear's stats.

[DarthBuzzer]

Crafters SHOULD be able to make decent battle gear near BiS. One way to have both raiders happy and crafters happy is to have i210 crafted gear that requires binding raid drops. These could then be used by Crafters in the raid to make binding i210 gear. Thats just one way to make crafting worthwhile, but we should still have decent tradable battle gear too.

[Giantbane]

Crafters SHOULD be able to make decent battle gear near BiS. One way to have both raiders happy and crafters happy is to have i210 crafted gear that requires binding raid drops. These could then be used by Crafters in the raid to make binding i210 gear. Thats just one way to make crafting worthwhile, but we should still have decent tradable battle gear too.

I wish crafters could produce augments for high end raid gear that allows you to customize the secondary stats via materia.

Would be desirable enough to keep crafting relevant, but not required for raiding.

[Bishop81]

I wish SE would decide just where crafting fits in in the overall gear progression of the game.

IMHO ...

Recipes for the best gear should be from raid dungeons - accessible via Duty Finder version; this way all crafters can get the capability to craft them.
Materials for the best gear should also be from raid dungeons, the higher the difficulty of the dungeon, the better the materials and the better the resulting gear will be - e.g. DF iLv190, normal iLv210 (I think) ...

Some kind of system is required to allow players to "place orders" and create a contract.

• Buyers will put up the materials, the quality level they expect, and a fee they are willing to pay.
• Crafters can pick up the materials and craft - they will have to place a deposit; if they fail to provide the finished product within an hour or return the package within say 15 mins if they decide not to pursue it, the deposit is forfield.
  • If they fail (either to get the quality level or completely) the materials aren't used, instead they burn up specific reagents only crafters can get - so there is a cost to failure; but it's beared by the crafter.
  • Once they turn in the item to the Market Board, they get the fee deposited by the buyer - which should cover the cost of the aforementioned "specific reagents" expended plus some.

[Snugglebutt]

What the heck?
On Cerberus, STR HQ pots are 30-40k, DEX HQ pots are 12-15k, INT HQ pots are 7-9k.

Does Ragnarok only have 2 crafters and 1 gatherer or something like that, or are you just making up numbers?

She is mistaken, they are currently ranging from 500gil to at most around 40k, some of the variations of them are around 20k and one is around 5k. All of the prices I just listed are current on Ragnarok for HQ versions of the various draconian potions so they are around same as prices on your server.

[Snugglebutt]

Crafters SHOULD be able to make decent battle gear near BiS. One way to have both raiders happy and crafters happy is to have i210 crafted gear that requires binding raid drops. These could then be used by Crafters in the raid to make binding i210 gear. Thats just one way to make crafting worthwhile, but we should still have decent tradable battle gear too.

No they shouldn't and apparently SE agree's.