Parsers make you stupid

[Nadirah]

People do this now...having an in game parser isn't going to change things. This is a fear based arguments to not allow in game parsers. A parser is literally only information, it is up to the people using that information to determine how it is being used.

Yes, but the person quoted seems to think they'd become a magical tool that suddenly made people play better and stop bitching.

No, it wouldn't. In fact, it has the potential to make it *worse*.

[ivyblue]

Reply to M3an...

Ah there it is. The grow up, grow some thick skin excuse. Excuse to be rude, excuse to give advice where it is not wanted. Excuse to believe that a number makes you special. This is a game. There is not a life lesson to be learned here that's just silly. I pay my subscription. I log on, play and log off. Some of this feedback has been great and I have learned a lot, without being parsed. If someone is truly interested in helping then the last thing they are going to do is be a jerk. I was at no time offered any actual advice on improving. No one was telling me I could be better. I was just being told I did not meet the expectations of their parser. It went far beyond criticism and into the harassment category. I do however understand your viewpoint very well, every bully on the internet says the same thing.

[Kona_Nightwind]

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I don't understand. Since you pay, you can play the game your way. But it's not ok for others to play there way. Getting kicked from a group because you are wasting other peopled time is harassment? And BTW people aren't going to look to help you. Try asking for help. And if you want to play with those groups, put in the work to get on that level of play. And the I pay and play the way I want, and I don't care if I waste your time is rude.

[AlphaFox]

They are not all bad, I personally don't use em but a few people I know do and we use it merely to gauge who needs to tweek their gear, rotation and such to get the most optimized performance, especially with savage now having a high mark to hit. However I admit, in the wrong hands they start to feel like god and just the mention of having one and connecting a poor performance to a name can almost be a death sentence to your existence in that group.

[Assirra]

I am honestly having a hard time trying to figure out what in the world the OP is talking about and what it has to do with parsers.

[Noxifer]

I am honestly having a hard time trying to figure out what in the world the OP is talking about and what it has to do with parsers.

Basically that some people using parsers stare themselves blind on those numbers and ignore mechanics cos "MOAR DEEPS!", and then rag on the people doing mechanics, sometimes the mechanics the tunnelvisioned people should be taking care of, for not having "good" dps numbers....

[Eye_Gore]

Out of sight, out of mind, just play the game. If you DF a instance, remember where you are. If you don't like how others are playing, form your own party of heroes.

[Vmage]

Out of sight, out of mind, just play the game. If you DF a instance, remember where you are. If you don't like how others are playing, form your own party of heroes.

pretty much, they're not that useful in DF... odds are you won't even see those people again anyways.

although, I do wish they were part of the stock UI.. or at least as ubiquitous as they are in WoW... the average dps player in WoW puts out numbers a lot closer to their theoretical max than the average dps player in ffxiv does, and i have to think that parsers being so prevalent has something to do with it.

[Fenwick]

How to correctly use a parser in most situations:

1) Launch the parser and make sure it works.
2) Minimize the parser.
3) Focus on the fight.
4) Finish the fight.
5) Look at your numbers.

Everything else is for mashing on training dummies, I've never used a parser on this game in-particular but unless you're a confident multi-tasker this is generally what you should do.

[KaedrianLiang]

op.

If you are a victim of harassment, especially when the perp claims to be using a 3rd party tool such as a parser as a basis to harass you. Report them and the GM's will happily slap them around for you.