Parsers make you stupid

[Gallus]

Parsers do not make people stupid.

People that are stupid are stupid with or without parsers.

[Badkarma]

^this. Ignorance makes people stupid. Parsers are just a means for them to harass you. Take some screenshots and report those people for harassment.

LOL the amount of wrong in this one sentence.

[Badkarma]

Parsers do not make people stupid.

People that are stupid are stupid with or without parsers.

exactly correct

[Rin_Kuroi]

However, the only way to know for certain if you are doing well as a damage dealer is to have a good parser and a rotation guide. Over the years, a lot of us WoW vets developed a type of "common MMO sense" for doing damage because everyone used the same general combat system. New players who have never played an MMORPG before are left to the mercy of their gaming background. Some experiences will transfer well to a theme park MMORPG like FFXIV:ARR, while others don't hold up.

As long as damage dealer is a role and enrage mechanics are present, parsers will become indispensable tools for conquering hard content. There really is no way around it.

For hard content youll be playing with people who probably all consent to thier use. The real problem is the toxicity they create in pf/df.

I could see an ingame parser for alex savage. A parser used in any other way is just harassment.

[Eye_Gore]

Mama always said, "stupid is as stupid does"

[Ditto]

For hard content youll be playing with people who probably all consent to thier use. The real problem is the toxicity the create in pf/df.

I could see an ingame parser made avaliable in alex savage. A parser used in any other way is just harassment.

Is it now? So if we're failing A1 normal because you're doing a whole 400 DPS for whatever reason, me telling you that you need to step your game up is harassment?

[Averax]

You should be self-conscious. This is a group activity. IRL, if you are on a team or at work and see that you are clearly under-performing compared to your colleagues, most human beings would attempt to better themselves so they don't feel the shame of letting the group down. Why can't this aspect of social behavior be extended to a game where you must socialize to succeed?

You have a point, but in a group full of random people it really doesn't matter so long as things are progressing smoothly.

In a savage progression group, they do fulfill a purpose because if someone is dragging the group down it helps to know who. But if you're not doing progression, it shouldn't matter. (because if things are going sour outside of savage it's probably a problem with more than one person).

Personal parsers would be great so you can know how well that you alone are doing, without having to compare yourself to others. Then again, you're probably not going to perform to your maximum potential in any given fight due to how movement heavy they can be. People might start standing in bad stuff in an attempt to maximize themselves.

I had a DRG doing that the other day on the last boss of Fractal continuum, he wouldn't move away from the boss unless there were adds, he stood on active pads and bombs in an attempt to maximize his dps, thus causing the rest of the group to suffer for every bomb he stepped on.

TLDR: People who are focused on their dps output aren't focused on their environment.

[Izularia]

I'd be interested to see my own DPS, I don't care about the damage other players do, though. I don't play any raiding content (except for Alexander Easy), so I don't need to do the biggest of biggest DPS, but I want to do some solid damage; of course.
Thus, I think you ARE allowed to use "fun" as some kind of an excuse and, at least in my opinion, it's okay if you're a casual player (god, I hate that word) and do less damage than all those Hardcore Raiders. Sure, you should know your class, but there's no need to make fun of people due to their damage. With that said, it's okay to friendly ask for trying harder, just don't be harsh or too judgmental.

[Rin_Kuroi]

Is it now? So if we're failing A1 normal because you're doing a whole 400 DPS for whatever reason, me telling you that you need to step your game up is harassment?

Absolutely. Saying "you needed to step your game up" is beyond useless and does nothing to actually solve the problem that I consider it harassment. Offer some real constructive advice (ie mechanics, rotations, etc) or gtfo.

[Ferth]

This is not a problem with the parser, this is just a problem with someone who doesn't know how to read a parser.

Back when I had a static for second coil we were running into issues where one of our bards' dps was significantly lower than the others. Using a parser I was able to first off tell that there was a discrepancy but I was also able to look at the differences in their accuracy, crit rates, damage per hit, ability usage, we were able to tell of this was a problem due to gear or some foible in playstyle.

Because of my parser we were able to see what specifically was different and were able to fix the problem, once the bard knew specifically where he was going wrong he was able to put out nearly the same dps as the other bard.

Blaming douchebaggery on parsers won't stop people from being rude. This game fosters a lack of personal accountability both jn playstyle as well as in attitude. In the duty finder people are free to be as rude and obnoxious as they want because the chance that they will see anyone in that group ever again is extremely remote. Furthermore up until you get into raid tier content you can succeed without using optimal playstyles.

That and the internet in general seems to bring out the worst aspects of humanity.