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  1. #211
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    AsahinaMyLove's Avatar
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    Asahina Karayami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    Someone just gave me grief in Fractal Continuum because his parser told him I wasn't putting out enough damage on my White Mage. -_-

    I hate people sometimes.
    I would just vote kick those people expecting healer are dpsing too! - done
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  2. #212
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    Luciano_Bozzelli's Avatar
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    Luciano Bozzelli
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vmage View Post
    as far as ffxiv high level content goes, it matters when you wipe to enrages due to low dps.

    i.e. every piece of level 60 8-man content in the game.

    a single person pulling 25-50% of their potential dps isn't a big deal outside of savage alex, sometimes even two if the healers and tanks are putting out decent numbers

    but if there are enough people doing poor dps, you'll hit hard enrages.. I was tanking A1 normal last week, multiple dps < 500, we wiped to a self destruct a couple times before vote abandon went through.

    I've also watched parties fail to meet dps checks in both of the extreme primal fights

    ...and I've heard about parties wiping to the soft enrages in A3 and A4 due to poor dps (both cascade in A3 and discoid in A4 ramp up over time)

    so while you're right, there's probably some places where overall dps isn't a high priority... the current design of throwing enrage mechanics and dps checks at players in every scrap of end-game content doesn't give much wiggle room.

    in any of the 'casual' end-game right now (everything but savage) a couple dps pulling 400-500 will cost your group the clear every single time, regardless of how well they handle mechanics... unless your other two dps pick up the slack and put out 1200+

    again, not that I'm a fan of this type of encounter design... but every single bismark ex/ravana ex clear party in pf? they benefit from having at least one person running a parser just to identify and replace the weak links
    I wish I would have seen this earlier... All this here is irrelevant because you took a line from all that I said, and misquoted me... Who are you, Fox news? If you are gonna quote me, quote the whole sentence. You don't just get to stop where you want to to make your argument convenient. Read what I said after the word low dps...
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    Last edited by Luciano_Bozzelli; 07-31-2015 at 01:12 AM.

  3. #213
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    Seth Cypher
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I think Parsers are nice to have, but not the most important thing.

    First off people need to know when to take Parser with a grain of salt, and when to actually consider the data Parser puts out. In a fight like A4 where people are constantly running about, tanking damage and getting flung around, Parser isn't very accurate and does not really reflect true DPS. Since it takes log data and parses that, I'm assuming quarantined people will have skewed results.

    But in a fight like Bismark Extreme where you're constantly dealing damage to something without having to move around, then Parser is a good tool to see whether or not you are doing well in fight.
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  4. #214
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    yes they give u all the triggers now so i don't need to actually play.
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  5. #215
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Parses don't make you stupid. They just enable stupid people.
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  6. #216
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    This thread is old. D:
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  7. #217
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Parsers don't make you stupid. Stupid makes you stupid.
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  8. #218
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroFists View Post
    yes they give u all the triggers now so i don't need to actually play.
    I think he just admitted he uses one so he doesn't have to play? Does this count as admitting to botting?
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    love to resurrect a post old enough to go to kindergarten
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  10. #220
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    Someone just gave me grief in Fractal Continuum because his parser told him I wasn't putting out enough damage on my White Mage. -_-

    I hate people sometimes.
    You should have left them die a few times
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